SHOW ME THE PROOF!

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  • #6849
    Joshua
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    This is a formal challenge to all WMSCOG members. The challenge is for you to find for me anywhere in the Bible the phrase, “god the mother.” You can find God the Father, Son of God, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, God the Holy Ghost. Your task is to show me, “god the mother” word for word. Your time starts now.

  • #46106

    Simon
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    think about how old Zhang and Kim are they can easily come up with a playable enough stall to last.their lifetimes once they’re gone what do they care?

    #46107

    Elievalkyrie
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    Simon wrote:

    think about how old Zhang and Kim are they can easily come up with a playable enough stall to last.their lifetimes once they're gone what do they care?

    Oh, they'll care alright. When they are dead and burning in, shall we say Sheol?…of which I am pretty sure of. They may taste heaven while they are still here on Earth, but the Bible states pretty clearly what is in store for the likes of them when they die. But anyway, let's not get vindictive here. I will just say that with enough effort, many people will come to know the truth about the WMSCOg and preventing them from spreading further, no matter how small that would be, is a great accomplishment enough.

    #46108

    KF
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    we Well said Eli, and on that note this bible verse is for the current members LUKE 21:7-11

     

     

     

    Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

    >He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. When you hear of wars and uprisings, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”

    >Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.>There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

     

     >“But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. >And so you will bear testimony to me.

    I think verse 10-12 is happening, We are seeing more disaters, and I read a story on FB about the rabbi from the middle east who was in jail for a long time because of the name of Jesus and he remained firm to the end, they were going to bring him to death, there was alot of protest and i'm not quite sure he was released. You guys know what I'm talking about?

    #46109

    Elievalkyrie
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    I don't know about that rabbi story but I do believe that verse 10-12 is happening. The end is near, I think everyone can feel it too. 

    #46110

    Simon
    Participant

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    Simon wrote:

    think about how old Zhang and Kim are they can easily come up with a playable enough stall to last.their lifetimes once they're gone what do they care?

    Oh, they'll care alright. When they are dead and burning in, shall we say Sheol?…of which I am pretty sure of. They may taste heaven while they are still here on Earth, but the Bible states pretty clearly what is in store for the likes of them when they die. But anyway, let's not get vindictive here. I will just say that with enough effort, many people will come to know the truth about the WMSCOg and preventing them from spreading further, no matter how small that would be, is a great accomplishment enough.

    From their perspective of course, I am sure they must be atheists in all reality if they are going to push such falsehood, who would intentionally seek hell like that?

     

    #46111

    Elievalkyrie
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    Simon wrote:

    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    Simon wrote:

    think about how old Zhang and Kim are they can easily come up with a playable enough stall to last.their lifetimes once they're gone what do they care?

    Oh, they'll care alright. When they are dead and burning in, shall we say Sheol?…of which I am pretty sure of. They may taste heaven while they are still here on Earth, but the Bible states pretty clearly what is in store for the likes of them when they die. But anyway, let's not get vindictive here. I will just say that with enough effort, many people will come to know the truth about the WMSCOg and preventing them from spreading further, no matter how small that would be, is a great accomplishment enough.

    From their perspective of course, I am sure they must be atheists in all reality if they are going to push such falsehood, who would intentionally seek hell like that?

    You have a point there, Simon. If nothing else, we can surely say that they are very brave indeed for deliberately seeking eternal damnation like that. Or is it that they really believe what they teach? 

    #46112

    Simon
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    If so then they are as guilty of double think as the members

    #46113

    Elievalkyrie
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    What I actually am contemplating about them is that…maybe some of the leaders of the WMSCOG are previous members of the Unification Church cult which also originated from Korea. Maybe some Moonies saw how easy it is to make money or gain prestige by creating a new religion and someone took a page from Moon's (the leader) book and incorporated it in this wmscog religion. Korean people are so imaginative and inventive it is such a waste that they use it for evil purposes.

    #46114

    MountainMom
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    I think an accurate description of this group is that they learned lessons from the Moonies, as they are very similar in operation, and they took things from the  Seventh Day Adventists (of which Ahnsahnghong was a member for a while), and then they threw in their own imaginative spin, too.  One thing they definitely seemed to learn from the Moonies is that they should be more secretive and go  underground, basically, in their operations.  It has been very successful, as they are all over and the average person has no idea their church exists.  Even less than a half mile away from their church in one city, as I asked people who lived there, they knew nothing at all about the wmscog.  All the better for these wolves in sheeps clothing to deceive them with!

    #46115

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Explain the verse where jesus points to the disciples and says, “here are my brother and sister and mother.” They were all men. Why were they given female descriptions like sister and mother?

    #46116

    Simon
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    He had more than just the twelve some maybe have been female such as Mary Magdelene and Martha et al.

    #46117

    KF
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    Elievalkyrie wrote:

    I don't know about that rabbi story but I do believe that verse 10-12 is happening. The end is near, I think everyone can feel it too. 

     

    Hal wrote:

    Alot of the prophecies such as the Temple being rebuilt have already happened. The prophecies were meant for a specific time. As far as the Rabbi (which is hebrew for master, not teacher), which country was it in? I doubt the story is true because Ive heard the same story that aPastor and other various Christian denomination leadership being in jail in the various ME countries. What you are seeing is a better reporting system because news travels at seconds rather than weeks and years.

     

    I can't find the story I was speaking of but here are similar ones, and Hal so the temple will not be built again in Jerusalem?

     

     http://www.persecution.org/category/news/

     

     http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=7GGGKWNX

    #46118

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Ok.. well, I suppose he didn’t add father because there is only one father. Like he said in the scripture, not to call anyone father except god. I would think that would also apply to mother.

    #46119

    Simon
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    That would only apply to God if there is a God the Mother.

    #46120

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    So the fact that jesus called a group of people “mother” implies there is no god the mother.

    #46121

    Simon
    Participant

    possibly, unless God the Mother were in the group? LOL 

    #46122

    Elievalkyrie
    Participant

    LOL. Or maybe god the mother was saying to Jesus "Shh! Don't speak about me, the time has not yet come to reveal My existence. I will only reveal Myself in the Modern society" This seems to be what the wmscog are implying with their teachings.

    #46123

    Simon
    Participant

    that’s pretty much what they claim lol

    #46124

    Elievalkyrie
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    LOL. I guess it is what they are claiming. And they said that the dead people that didn't know about god the mother will be preached by Jesus and they still have a choice whether to believe in her or not. If I think about it a story-like setting… I'm dead (might suffering in hell for how many years already), suddenly I saw Jesus and He told me "god the mother exist! believe and be saved!" OFCOURSE I would believe that! Is there any other choice? LOL.

    #46125

    Simon
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    They don't teach anyone is in hell actually. not yet

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