Realistic expectations.

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  • #7037
    Joshua
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    Hi folks, I have been getting overwhelmed with request recently to help people with their marriages. I have also been hit with the idea repeatedly that this website is for the haters of the WMSCOG. I hope to address, at least in part, these two things. I do understand some of the problem that a destructive mind control cult creates in relationships. Fortunately, having been through it myself, I am able to provide insight as to how groups like this works and a hopeful plan of action. As for marriages themselves I feel very unqualified having never had training in this area. I can speak to things that I have experienced and how things were delt with however, I have made many mistakes myself and would hardly hold myself out as an expert. Please accept me as I am and not as some kind of solution solver for relationships. As for this website being for haters of the WMSCOG, I will clearly speak. Hate the sin but love the sinner! We are here attacking the falsehoods of this cult! This pack of lies must be exposed at every turn. (When I first started posting in the forum there was only two pages. Now there are ten and it's growing.) The people that are caught in this group are not evil or bad but simply mislead. By taking the time to disect the sermons and teaching of the WMS we are shining the light of the truth into one of the darkest places in exhistance. This is love folks not hate! Why would we bother with this effort otherwise? If we truly believe that the members of the WMSCOG are doomed to spend eternity in hell and we hated anyone involved with this group then out of that hate we would feel that you got what you have coming. This is NOT what we do here! Many times the approach that some of the folks here (including myself) use is not perhaps the best but the intention is to bring people out of this bondage. I do HATE the sin but I don't hate the sinner. I think most people here would agree.

  • #49919

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I agree with holding a mirror to people. It reminds me of the episode tyra did when she put makeup on people who did drugs so they would see what would become of them if they continued. That’s a mirror and it’s tough love. But none of them were disrespected in the process. Parents who stop giving their children money because they want their kids to become independent is tough love. I believe everyone intentions on this site is to do good. But it doesn’t always look that way. This is a very sensitive topic and should be treated as such.

    #49920

    Joshua
    Participant

    Amen.

    #49921

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Does amen mean “it is so”??

    #49922

    Simon
    Participant

    from wikipedia: The word amen ( /ˌɑːˈmɛn/ or /ˌeɪˈmɛn/; Hebrew: אָמֵן, Modern amen Tiberian ʾāmēn; Greek: ἀμήν; Arabic: آمين‎, ʾāmīn ; "So be it; truly") is a declaration of affirmation[1][2] found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. Its use in Judaism dates back to its earliest texts.[3] It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding word for prayers and hymns.[2] In Islam, it is the standard ending to Dua (supplication). Common English translations of the word amen include "verily" and "truly". It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement,[2] as in, for instance, amen to that.[4]

    #49923

    Simon
    Participant

    Also, all the verses translated in NIV where he says I tell you the truth… he said "amen amen I say"

    #49924

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Oh.. Amen. =)

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