RCC is the beast in Daniel & Revelations

  • Creator
    Topic
  • #7392
    Disturbed
    Participant

    Emil this is for you…

    I just wanted to begin this thread to start the discussion on the WMSCOG's teaching that the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is the beast spoken of in Daniel chapters 2 & 7 and Revelation chapters 13 & 17.  It startes off:

    Daniel 7:25

    25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

  • #62809

    144000
    Participant

    Listen to you guys contradict yourselves. First the beast is is the 3 1/2 year literal reign of a pagan emperor (who does not fulfill the prophecy completely) Then one of you says that it hasn’t happened yet. Then one of you says that the little horn came before Christ. Then one of you starts a thread trying to call us the beast. You people just make things up as you go along.

    You guys are all over the place, none of you knows anything about anything and with every word you post you prove how every other forum member is wrong. You all have different and delusional interpretations.

    But Father and Mother have revealed the truth about kings and kingdoms, and made contentious people like you easy to spot for their contradicting and hippocritical interpretations, people who add or subtract from the bible where they please.

    #62810

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    144000 wrote:

    people who add or subtract from the bible where they please.

     Pot, meet Kettle.

    #62811

    Disturbed
    Participant

    What exactly did "mother" reveal? Ash is the one who wrote 25 books with teachings he has learned, all before she was  "revealed". What has she written at all, most notably after 1985?

    #62812

    Sub Zero
    Participant

    Doesn't change the fact they are an evil organization.

    #62813

    Disturbed
    Participant

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

    Doesn't change the fact they are an evil organization.

     And the WMSCOG is different how? They have tried to cover up their true lineage by doctoring up Wikipedia, they have changed the names & titles in Ahn's books so they can reprint and publish them through Melchizedek Publishing (books that they do not own the rights to), they have distorted the teachings of Ahn by worshipping mother god.

    WMSCOG is not different nor better than the Roman Catholic Church.

    #62814

    genny
    Participant

    144000, I see you are avoiding the questions again.  The more you do that the more it looks like you have no answers.  Like I would tell my children, why spend so much time and effort to avoid something when it would be much better to just face it?

    #62815

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    genny wrote:

    144000, I see you are avoiding the questions again.  The more you do that the more it looks like you have no answers.  Like I would tell my children, why spend so much time and effort to avoid something when it would be much better to just face it? 

    I'll wager a guess or two.

    Fear.

    Likes the idea of being of the chosen.  Scared of losing salvation.

    These fears superceded by shunning from the group.

    also, out from under the protective umbrella, the sky is surely falling.  The end is surely upon us at any moment.

    Fear, fear, fear.  Us. vs Them.

    Works like a charm.

    #62816

    Sub Zero
    Participant

    @disturbed

    Glad to see you agree that the RCC is evil.

    #62817

    Disturbed
    Participant

    @Atlas Shrugged…I didn’t agree or disagree. What I said was ‘How is the WMSCOG different?’ So if you took that to mean I agree that means you agree that the WMSCOG is evil.

    #62818

    MountainMom
    Participant

    I am not a Catholic, but I don't believe for a second that the RCC is evil.  And I know that is not what Disturbed meant either.  I did see a video running in the cafeteria area in the wmscog while I was there once,though, that was definitely villifying the RCC.  It was very disturbing to see a video promoting religious hatred running non stop in a church.  Never saw that anywhere else, ever, before or since.   

    #62819

    Disturbed
    Participant

    Revelation 18:3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.

    Something came to my mind. WMSCOG says this verse speaks about world leaders meeting with the pope. I just happened to see a video in which the leader of Gabon met with Zhang. The church also brags that the prince of Tonga was baptized into the church (which is unverifiable because the church doesn’t even address him by the correct name-they address him by his dead father’s name). So now while they claim they are fulfilling a different prophesy, can they be fulfilling this one in Revelation?

    #62820

    emil
    Participant

    144000 wrote:

    Then one of you says that the little horn came before Christ.

    The bible says it. Can you refute it? That one little fact completely destroys the entire teaching and shows it up as false.

     

    But Father and Mother have revealed the truth about kings and kingdoms, and made contentious people like you easy to spot for their contradicting and hippocritical interpretations, people who add or subtract from the bible where they please.

    You are now contradicting yourself. You said that teaching came before the wmscog. You are the guys adding and subtracting from the bible. Answer my point that the bible shows the little horn came before Christ.

    #62821

    emil
    Participant

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

    Doesn't change the fact they are an evil organization.

    How is that a fact? It is an assumption. Show me how it is fact.

    #62822

    emil
    Participant

    Disturbed wrote:

    WMSCOG is not different nor better than the Roman Catholic Church.

    That is an assumption based on false information. The RCC worships THE one Christ. The wmscog worships two humans. There is no comparison between the two.

    #62823

    Simon
    Participant

    144000 fails to understand even if we were wrong that wouldn’t make them right.

    #62824

    emil
    Participant

    Whether it is SDA, JW or WMSCOG, the biggest single target church has been the catholic church. Targeting it is purely a marketing strategy. When a new cola was introduced in our country, their Ads targetted Coke and Pepsi. Even a small market share stolen from the giants is big numbers for the Johnny-come-lately. This is the strategy employed.

    It is the same with the so-called passover. Having spun off from the SDA, they needed a differentiation for marketing. Exit the Sabbath as a seal and enter Passover.

    The WMSCOG is a marketing organization selling sub-standard stuff by denouncing the existing players who it tries to replace. Even the target demographic is chosen on marketing principles.

    It helps them immensely that so many catholics, especially younger ones, know very little of the bible and about authentic catholic teaching and fall for what they are told is catholic teaching.

    #62825

    Sub Zero
    Participant

    Disturbed wrote:

    @Atlas Shrugged…I didn't agree or disagree. What I said was 'How is the WMSCOG different?' So if you took that to mean I agree that means you agree that the WMSCOG is evil.

     Well I said the RCC are evil. Then you said said, 'How is the WMSCOG different?" So YOU are saying both are evil, and that's your opinion. I only said the RCC is evil.

    emil wrote:

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

    Doesn't change the fact they are an evil organization.

    How is that a fact? It is an assumption. Show me how it is fact.

     They rape little boys.

    #62826

    Smurf
    Participant

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

     They rape little boys.

    And they worship Lucifer. Sometimes openly. But the WMS rapes minds. Which is worse.

    I hope you understand that the RCC being evil is no proof the WMS is good, it doesn't work that way ๐Ÿ™‚

    #62827

    Harry
    Participant

    Smurf wrote:

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

     

     They rape little boys.

    And they worship Lucifer. Sometimes openly. But the WMS rapes minds. Which is worse.

    I hope you understand that the RCC being evil is no proof the WMS is good, it doesn't work that way ๐Ÿ™‚

    Well atlas is fucking brainwashed, I'm curious, what's your excuse Smurf? 

    #62828

    emil
    Participant

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

    emil wrote:

    Atlas Shrugged wrote:

    Doesn't change the fact they are an evil organization.

    How is that a fact? It is an assumption. Show me how it is fact.

     They rape little boys.

    Oh is that so? The RCC does that? Some individual priests gone bad does not make the RCC evil. There have been bad priests and even bishops. In the past there have even been bad popes. But that does not make the church evil. What makes a church evil is evil teachings and doctrines.

    The evil individuals in the RCC are not exclusive to the RCC. They are a reflection of how evil society as a whole has become. Such individuals are everywhere, in every church, in every non-church.

Viewing 20 replies - 21 through 40 (of 111 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.