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This question is not to offend anyone, and please if you answer, try to do so without being biased. First, I’d like to commend all who sincerely are trying to expose false doctrine to the best of their God given ability, knowing that one day God will reward them for the many brothers and sister that end up not being left behind ( and I don’t mean as in the “Left Behind” movie).
Secondly, we have been going on these debates with various points to prove what is and what isn’t; So, if 50% truth , assuming is mixed with 50% deceit, should the truth overshadow the deceit? In other words, should the 50% truth throw away the 50% deceit? Will God say, “we’ll done my good and faithful servant for teaching half truth and half deceit?” Or, will God say, “I am all truth and no deception exists in me?” If you believe it is ok to preach or teach both ,wether inadvertently or not, then by that, we can assume it is ok to continue with these organizations, right? If you disagree, then why? Why not let our loved ones continue to receive the 50% deceit? After all, they are getting 50% truth? (If your focus is on whether they are false or not, satanic or not, God or not, then you have missed the question entirely). It is on 50% truth and 50% deceit from a biblical stand point.
Satan can show someone the beauties of life and even offer to give it to you, but doubts and question come to mind. why doubt? why not take it? There obviously is a reason one won’t, regardless of who does. Jesus or God, if you please, can also show someone the beauties of life and even offer to give it to him and most may take it without a blink. Why? Why not take from Satan also, after all they are both offering the same. Or are they not?
Saul/Paul persecuted Christians out of ignorance, but the Bible tells us he sold out to the gospel of Jesus Christ when he became saved (paraphrase). Why wouldn’t he continue killing (“killing” spiritually and physically)and spreading the gospel?
Please educate or enlighten me on these question as I am willing to learn.
@sarah2013 I agree, the Lord is slow to anger, but time is running out. That's why in the bible we see two sides to GOD. One side is Good the other side seems violent, but it's not, because he tells us to seek him while he can still be found or pay the consequences. That's why he will come with fire.Right, I mean He has punished plenty of people. But at the same time we can't do everything right and shouldn't expect ourselves to. I gave an open answer because only God can give a definite answer. If you want to know what God will do, read the bible. If it's not there or if the answer is unclear ask God because I don't know.
I don't believe in grey area except for white lies. A lie that doesn't hurt anyone except maybe, a very very small maybe, their feelings. Other than that, deceit is evil. I think absolutely every human being has a bit of deceit in them. In other words, I think everyone has a bit of evil in them because we all have evil desires or we once had evil desires or we will soon have an evil desire even if it's short lived. So, if God is expecting 100% truth from us, He knows He's not going to get it and has a ridiculous expectation. No one is going to heaven if that's the case.
Right, I mean He has punished plenty of people. But at the same time we can't do everything right and shouldn't expect ourselves to. I gave an open answer because only God can give a definite answer. If you want to know what God will do, read the bible. If it's not there or if the answer is unclear ask God because I don't know.
I don't believe in grey area except for white lies. A lie that doesn't hurt anyone except maybe, a very very small maybe, their feelings. Other than that, deceit is evil. I think absolutely every human being has a bit of deceit in them. In other words, I think everyone has a bit of evil in them because we all have evil desires or we once had evil desires or we will soon have an evil desire even if it's short lived. So, if God is expecting 100% truth from us, He knows He's not going to get it and has a ridiculous expectation. No one is going to heaven if that's the case.
Renita once you get into the realm of "white" lies it becomes a matter of justifying the lie. I believe that is a very dangerous situation to be in.
Sarah2013 re: your question about God allowing or doing something, I believe like Stained that God does not do any evil. He does however, allow it for His own purpose. The book of Job is a good illustration of God allowing evil for a time to befall Job.
I also do not subscribe to the view that God orchestrates all our deeds. I believe we are still free to choose He knows our choice in advance. If this is incorrect then we cannot believe in a loving God. In that case we have to accept that God created some people for heaven and others for hell.
Renita once you get into the realm of "white" lies it becomes a matter of justifying the lie. I believe that is a very dangerous situation to be in.
Sarah2013 re: your question about God allowing or doing something, I believe like Stained that God does not do any evil. He does however, allow it for His own purpose. The book of Job is a good illustration of God allowing evil for a time to befall Job.
I also do not subscribe to the view that God orchestrates all our deeds. I believe we are still free to choose He knows our choice in advance. If this is incorrect then we cannot believe in a loving God. In that case we have to accept that God created some people for heaven and others for hell.
You are coming across highly sarcastic Sarah.
You are coming across highly sarcastic Sarah.
Not seeing that, Renita. I think she's saying she's not perfect, so more a humble statement. Or a joke. We need to laugh sometimes about this thing once in a while because the alternative is to cry. And some of us have done all of that we can endure already.
Not seeing that, Renita. I think she's saying she's not perfect, so more a humble statement. Or a joke. We need to laugh sometimes about this thing once in a while because the alternative is to cry. And some of us have done all of that we can endure already.
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I understand where you are coming from. I'm actually enjoying this while I sit on the patio drinking my coffee. My dear, you are right in saying we can't be perfect. I don't believe we will ever be here on earth. Yes, very true. But don't you think striving is better than not striving? Don't you think, if people start a church just to gain money while distorting the bible is a sin? Do you feel, without repentance, or sometime even a public apology for such deceit, that God will be ok with all that? I don't think so. What do you think friend?
1. I have greater satifaction when I work hard for what I've received. I have a low satisfaction for things that worked very little or very hard for.
2. I think when people distort the bible for any reason is a sin.
3. I think apologies are skin deep. You never know if you've actually repented until you die.
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