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    Simon
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    The brown book is by kim joo cheol

    Oh and i left out Acts 2:15 and Acts 3:1

    #60797

    Simon
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    The brown book is by kim joo cheol

    Oh and i left out Acts 2:15 and Acts 3:1

    #60796

    emil
    Member

    Smurf wrote:

    Right on. Some people just want to watch the world burn 😛  and an instigator like FTOS sure seems like a puppet-master-wannabe. I would urge everyone not to feed his ego by responding to his juvenile remarks. And since his defence against logic highly impenetrable, ignoring him may prove to be more effective… then he'll have himself to deal with. You know… like the only way to defeat Medusa was by showing her a mirror…. dunno, just a thought 🙂

    You are spot on.

    #60795

    Love'n Honey
    Member

    MountainMom wrote:

    A little off the topic, but can anyone tell me where it is in the Bible that a person in the church has to pray at 8, 3, and 8 again each day?  Is that a man rule or a Bible rule?   Couldn't find it myself, and just considered it another manipulation to keep their minds on "Mother" even if they weren't at church. 

     Chapter 19 of the brown book is about prayer. It doesn't give the verses used to justify prayer times but what I found interesting is that it doesn't say who's name we should pray in. It just says what to pray for, when to pray, how to pray [without mentioning any name], when prayers are answered..

    I'm pretty sure Ash probably said to pray in the name of Jesus when he wrote this chapter. Does anyone have any evidence of this? How can I read the original brown book in english?

    #60794

    Smurf
    Member

    Right on. Some people just want to watch the world burn 😛  and an instigator like FTOS sure seems like a puppet-master-wannabe. I would urge everyone not to feed his ego by responding to his juvenile remarks. And since his defence against logic highly impenetrable, ignoring him may prove to be more effective… then he'll have himself to deal with. You know… like the only way to defeat Medusa was by showing her a mirror…. dunno, just a thought 🙂

    #60793

    MountainMom
    Participant

    Thanks for your answer, Simon.  However, these seem open to interpretation, and don't answer my question sufficiently.  There appears to be no black and white part in the Bible that equates to hard and fast rules about praying at any certain time in the day.  It really appears to be man's rules my son is going by.  Particularly, the men who are the pastors and recruiters.  They are the ones enforcing it, for sure, and the ones who told him he absolutely has to do this or lose salvation.  Man's rules. 

    You know, I think money is the main motivation for most of the hierarchy in this church.  However, for some, possibly like FTOS, I think they get off on the power issue.  Having the power to censor videos and information for members, having power over their behavior, etc.  This would appeal to a certain type of personality who has never had power over things and then suddenly has this type of power handed to them, though undeservedly.  It might make them play games with people, just to show they can exert power.  Kind of what some people would call a "little man" syndrome.  Just a thought.     

    #60792

    Simon
    Participant

    Times that in the summer equate to 9 and 3 are in the Bible as times of sacrifce

     8pm is not it is allegedly prophesied here:

    Zech 14:6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7:It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.

     

    When evening comes will be light is about "mother" and also prayer times being sacrifice times and sacrifices could only be done when there is light so its a prophecy about an after dark sacrifice time thus prayer time and only the LORD knows when it will be

    #60791

    MountainMom
    Participant

    What other churches?  (Please tell me it's the Catholic church, LOL!)  Anyway, is it a rule at the other churches or is it free will?  It seems to be an unbreakable rule at the wmscog that I can't find in the Bible.  So wouldn't that be a "man's rule?" 

    #60790

    Smurf
    Member

    MountainMom wrote:

    A little off the topic, but can anyone tell me where it is in the Bible that a person in the church has to pray at 8, 3, and 8 again each day?  Is that a man rule or a Bible rule?   Couldn't find it myself, and just considered it another manipulation to keep their minds on "Mother" even if they weren't at church. 

    Other churches have that as well, it's not only the WMS. I guess the connection is better or whatever… I find it a bit silly mainly because if everyone tries callin at the same time it will flood the heavenly servers  :`|

    #60789

    MountainMom
    Participant

    A little off the topic, but can anyone tell me where it is in the Bible that a person in the church has to pray at 8, 3, and 8 again each day?  Is that a man rule or a Bible rule?   Couldn't find it myself, and just considered it another manipulation to keep their minds on "Mother" even if they weren't at church. 

    #60788

    emil
    Member

    Anonymous writes:

    I honestly ask that Ron, please really think about all the prophecies you have studied and really, truly really, think and decide whether WMSCG is a cult? I cannot come to think of anyone leaving the truth while our living God is still with us. Please do this!!!! =)

    Hello Anonymous. If you ever do read this, just think about it. All those years that Ron preached in the WMSCOG, was he thinking about all the prophecies or was it on pure auto mode? Perhaps after all those years he actually began thinking about them.

    #60787

    Simon
    Participant

    its only special allowances

    #60786

    KF
    Member

    so why do they stress out keeping the sabbath in church, if you can keep service at home?

    #60785

    Sarah2013
    Member

    @ Anonymous: Yes. Ron really needs to think about leaving Wmscog especially since the living god is still there. I’d hate to see the living god leave and he misses out. I mean, why would he leave the living god? Who does that? Why Ron?

    #60784

    Simon
    Participant

    That person in my example came back and i think is still there

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