Part of my story

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    Storm
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    I felt like a dog returning back to its vomit. (2 Peter 2:22)

    The Missionary always read that verse in the bible and made sure it was drilled in our heads to make us feel guilty if we ever had any doubts of staying…

    When someone would not understand the church doctrine (2x coming & Mother god) he’d say Matthew 7:6 Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.” Another way to make you feel dumb and unworthy of God

    Whatever mother says we must be obedient. When we don’t listen to mother she suffers. Mother came to this earth to save us, we as her children must follow everything she says, if we did not, we were being tempted by the devil once again like it happen in heaven.

    Where else are you going to go from here? This is the true church. The only church that has the living God keeps the Sabbath and celebrates all God’s feast in the bible. This is what makes us not want to leave, although we see things and hear things that are not right, not only in God’s eyes but also in society. The fear of disobeying God, loosing our salvation and going to hell is dreadful.

    How blessed are we that father & mother chose us to be saved, they have opened up our spiritual eyes and ears. Very soon we will be going home, how amazing is that. You did not come here by chance it was F&M that allowed you to come. Hold on to your crown

    If we do not tithe we can not go to heaven, the 10% was like our down payment for our home in heaven. (copy & shadow)

    We must preach the gospel and find all our lost brothers and sisters the time is near. Do not be like the virgins who ran out of oil. This went on for months because Father was coming in 2012. I did not stay around to find out if the end would come, and I took my chances and put my faith in Jesus hands, deep in my heart I knew it was a lie. I wanted to prove it to myself. Years have passed and the earth is still here. We are still here

    Matthew 24:36  But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. This is one of the best verses everyone should know and keep in mind. I remember hearing a brother doing a fragrance in a group, he talked about how he wanted to be prepare because father was coming soon, I discreetly called the brother over and quoted Matthew 24:36 and he reply, yes I know but mother said and she is god so she knows, Where have you been haven’t you be paying attention to the sermons. I was just like dumb founded, like he spoke with such certainty I felt like a fool. I wonder how he is doing today. Did he swallow up the mother said she prayed to father for more time.

    Brother’s and sisters re-read Matthew 24:36 S-L-O-W-L-Y! please. If you deny this you are calling your True God a liar. Now I know many will say no mother never said that we never hear it from her mouth, ok whatever, if it was not true then why did the missionary’s deacons and pastors allow people to speak like that? Why where we franticly preaching searching for the lost. God knows I was told the end was 2012 that’s all that matters to me. I don’t care if it came from mother or G..P. or pastor or missionary or deacon, everyone knew that father is coming soon meant “2012"

    We were also told to bring in can goods and water so when we had to flee to zion, we would have food and water. We were also told to prepare at home in case we could not make it to zion. Our team member had everyone’s number to contact us if we were to be instructed to flee to zion.

    We must make mother the praise of the earth. Soon kings shall vow down to her, all will vow down to our heavenly mother. Where in the bible does it say the whole world will praise and vow down to a mother god.

    Romans 14:11 It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

    Philippians 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth

    Satan is enraged he knows his time is near he wants to attack mother and her children, do not fall for his schemes. Satan makes up a lot of lies about our heavenly parents, do not be deceived.

    Whoever does not believe in mother is crazy & does not belong. (This made us think when we went preaching if they don’t believe or accept mother they are not our lost brother or sister) but deep down inside I understood them, for I was also in doubt) how can I judge someone for something I did not believe in myself.

    It is so clear in the bible that mother exist but some people can not see it because they still have the veil covering their eyes, but by looking at world and seeing that every living creature has a mother, can we deny it, that we have a mother god, it is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven.

    BLASPHEMY!

    Satan is hindering you by putting doubts in your mind and making up lies on the internet about our heavenly mother. Do not be like a dog who returns back to its vomit.

    If you leave the church, knowing the truth, God says woe to you! You were better off not knowing the truth. You are condemning yourself.

    But no I say “the doubts I had came from within the church. I witness how arrogant the members acted at times, some seem like hypocrites also, all smiles and God bless you, from the mouth, but deep inside you can feel that the person doesn’t really care or like you much.

    If you brought it up, the answer was we are not perfect; we are being refined each and everyday. Do not let anyone get in the way of your salvation.

    I knew that we were not perfect, because if we were perfect we would not have been on earth in this situation. But I didn’t want to be treated indifferent, because they knew that I didn’t have enough faith like they wanted me to, and instead of helping me and caring for me they were judging me and out casting me. I had to suffer in silence, and it was eating me up inside, I was so stressed out, I had no one to go to or talk to in confidence. I felt persecution from within the church than the outside world.

    I was so happy to have found true God after so many years of searching, how blessed was I that father and mother had mercy on me and bought me here. Many times when I was hurting and praying to God to help me understand why is it that I can not 100% commits myself to the church or this new found religion.

    I call it new found religion, because I never knew of god the mother, I am an open minded person and I know that all things are possible with God. I could not help but think how did we never see for thousands of years that there was a mother god. Why should she be hidden, as if the devil would not have know of her exists. (The church said God was waiting for the right time to reveal her, if it was done sooner satan would have hinder the truth)

    BLASPHEMY!

    Everything they taught me came from the bible, it was there in black & white so can a person deny what’s written in the bible they would say. But even the devil knows the scriptures.

    (2Co 11:14 Did not even Satan = marvelously 'transform' himself = into an 'angel of light'

    Matthew 4:5) Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

    “‘He will command his angels concerning you,

    and they will lift you up in their hands,

    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

    (Genesis 3) now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

    4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

    I had many questions but very little answers, when I asked question beyond the normal. I was always told soon you will learn, in the next lesson, it will all make sense but of course I was just brushed off like lint.

    After finishing up all my studies time went by and I would notice things changing slightly. (the doctrine)

    If I would question it I was treated as if I was twisting the scripture. After you were in for a while questions for you was a NO- NO. I should be mature already, leave the questions for the infants. Concentrate on nourishing the new members and setting the example, do not grumble look at what happen to the Israelites how they never saw Canaan for complaining.

    I felt guilty at times when they would do sermons speaking of faith I would feel so bad thinking that I was the problem and not the church, that it was Satan trying to get me, he was the one putting things in my head.

    I would pray to My God my Heavenly Father in Jesus name (I could not pray to ash or mother it just didn’t seem right) I’d pray really hard that he give me the answer I was looking for. A sign or something

    then I’d think but how can Satan be inside God’s true church? Would God allow evil to enter Zion where he dwells? I refused to believe that God almighty would allow evil to enter his church.

    Our church was the true church and no one not even Satan could attack us if we where attending the true church. We had the seal of God; we kept Sabbath, Passover and all the other feast. We were his children and he would not allow that.

    Besides that, there are many false churches all over the world, and it was happening for thousands of years so why would God come to earth for a 2nd time, establish his church and then let satan continue to hinder his true church?

    Something was just not right, my intuition kept telling me, be careful not to be deceive. Jesus warned us of false prophets. I could not ignore his words.

    Jesus also said in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

    My God !! It was an awkward moment when they themselves read this in a sermon, (2 Corinthians 11:4), my eyes opened wide and my brain just clicked and I thought Oh My God, Oh My God, I am in a room with a pack of wolves. Here was the answer I was praying for. This was my sign. How ironic was that!

    I remembered the verse in the bible, Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

    I wanted to run out at that moment, but I couldn’t. I couldn’t speak to anyone in there for fear that they might tell the pastor and at the same time I was thinking what if this is the devil messing with my mind so I can lose my salvation, and he’s making me think this way. I was literally going crazy.

    But then I would hear this inner voice and got that gut feeling No this is wrong, something is wrong here, if nothing is wrong why do I feel so much fear. I fear God, and we all should, but why was I fearing man. Why was I afraid of what the pastor would say if he found out that I had my doubts and that I knew this was not the truth, why did I not feel comfortable to approach him and talk about what I was feeling, I mean after all he was a sinner just like the rest of us. It came to a point that I honestly felt spiritually endangered.

    I knew it was not going to be easy to get out; it was a little more complicated than anyone knew. You just can’t run when a pack of wolves are looking at you. You have to stay still and calm and then make a run for it without looking back, at the right moment, while at the same time praying to God to remove you from that situation, and he heard my prayer!

    I witness how they (group leaders) observed the new members when they were watching the videos of father or mother, they were always looking for an emotion (crying) from the viewer to see how good their faith was. Up to what point the potential member believed & then they would go and report it to the missionary or pastor. Is crying for God bad, NO of course not, but it is insane when someone is waiting to see your personal reaction to a video just to see if you fully believe in their doctrine.

    It’s almost like when your very hungry and you see a pot of savory food cooking and the smell is just driving you insane and your mouth just gets all watery and you can almost taste it and you so much want to eat it up right there and then, but you can’t because it’s not quite ready to be served it needs just a little bit more heat to be cooked to perfection.

    That’s how I observed them, “observing” the others. They seem like ferocious wolves waiting to devour you. Instead of letting the faith come from your heart on it’s own, they would push it up on you. You believe in father & mother right…thanks to father& mother!!!

    You had to always be joyful and if you felt sick you had to suck it in and not show it because

    (Hebrews 12:22) But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

    There was a verse for everything that was done or said in the church.

    It took me months to get out of the church due to guilt, insecurity, and fear. One day I never went back, changed my number and moved away.

    More months passed and I still couldn’t leave my home on a Saturday. I finally did it once and felt like a fish out of water. I would pray all day to my Lord Jesus Christ, asking him to please help me overcome and help me find his true church.

    I still can’t do anything on a Sabbath I prepare for everything I need on Friday so that on Saturday I stay home reading the bible and talking to God.

    It doesn’t bother me to sacrifice Saturdays and obey Gods word, but the experience has changed my life tremendously and I am more aware of a lot of things I did not know prior to my involvement at the church, and I accept it and know that everything happens for a reason. Sabbath Is a day of rest for me from the world and work, it’s just me and God on that day. It’s a time for me to reflect and get to know him more. We all need some time like that. Although if I’m honest I must admit that sometimes I’m not even sure if what I’m doing is right or wrong.

    When the Passover comes (I follow the Jewish) I read the bible, say a prayer in Jesus name, break matzo and drink a cup kosher wine imported from Israel. I really don’t care what anyone says, I ‘m ok with the fact that I left a place where things were not feeling right and till this day I still have not found God’s true church. I put my life in God’s hand, let it be his will.

    What I most regret about my experience was telling my family that they were going to hell including the kids, because they did not know true God and that I was trying to save them but they would not listen. How arrogant was I. I’ am so blessed they didn’t hold that against me.

    I still have faith in God and I stand firm in my savior who is, and was, and will always be, MY GOD His name is Jesus Christ and I won’t let no one take that away from me or make me WORSHIP ANOTHER god

    Exodus 23:13 “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.

    Exodus 34:14  Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God

    Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

    Psalm 16:4 Those who run after other gods will suffer more and more.

    ACTS 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.

    John 14:6  Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me .

    Jesus was once asked when the kingdom of God would come. The kingdom of God, Jesus replied, is not something people will be able to see and point to. Then came these striking words: “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21)

    Thank you God Almighty JESUS CHRIST for opening up my eyes, my heart, and my mind. I may have weakness, but God has strength, I may have sin, but God has Grace, I might Fail but God remains faithful.  Thanks for reading my story! Have a blessed day

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    MountainMom
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    Thank you for sharing your story.  You've obviously been through a lot with the wmscog.  Thank God you are out!

    #61242

    MountainMom
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    Thank you for sharing your story.  You've obviously been through a lot with the wmscog.  Thank God you are out!

    #25716

    Simon
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    The HTML madeit a bit weird to read but thanks for sharing ๐Ÿ™‚

    #61243

    Simon
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    The HTML madeit a bit weird to read but thanks for sharing ๐Ÿ™‚

    #61244

    serg
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    I was in such a similar situation as you were. I remember telling people that they were not going to be saved too. I had doubts about them while attending but never dared to ask questions because I had already seen what they would say. Anyway, I am glad we were able to open our eyes and leave that place.

    #25721

    serg
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    I was in such a similar situation as you were. I remember telling people that they were not going to be saved too. I had doubts about them while attending but never dared to ask questions because I had already seen what they would say. Anyway, I am glad we were able to open our eyes and leave that place.

    #61245

    Smurf
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    Looking good.. if we keep it up we might get enough people for a football game! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Only one team, obviously.

    #25706

    Smurf
    Participant

    Looking good.. if we keep it up we might get enough people for a football game! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Only one team, obviously.

    #25711

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    Storm, thanks for sharing your story. Yes, I believe you when you say they preached 2012 as the end of the world. I too heard them say it several times. It is just so sad that the group leaders are inadvertently doing the dirty work for them. I also agree with you that it is a new found religion. At that, they ought to make up their own bible and leave Jesus’ own alone. Thanks again, I enjoyed reading it.

    One more thing, you mentioned “vow to mother” a couple of times; is that vow as in oath or did you mean to type bow?

    #61246

    Sarah2013
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    Storm, thanks for sharing your story. Yes, I believe you when you say they preached 2012 as the end of the world. I too heard them say it several times. It is just so sad that the group leaders are inadvertently doing the dirty work for them. I also agree with you that it is a new found religion. At that, they ought to make up their own bible and leave Jesus’ own alone. Thanks again, I enjoyed reading it.

    One more thing, you mentioned “vow to mother” a couple of times; is that vow as in oath or did you mean to type bow?

    #61247

    Disturbed
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    Thank you Storm for sharing your experience. It sounded eerily similar to mine. Praise God for allowing you to get out. I’m confused about how to worship God after leaving but I’m happy that you have found a way that is pleasing to God and to you. Continue to stay strong. God bless you (heartfelt, not fake)

    #61248

    Storm
    Participant

    thank you all!  I'm taking it day by day, I'm a survivor!


    @Sarah2013
    yes V & B next to each other, auto-correct did not pick up typo error, I meant to say Bow

    #61249

    Sarah2013
    Participant

    Storm wrote:

    thank you all!  I'm taking it day by day, I'm a survivor!


    @Sarah2013
    yes V & B next to each other, auto-correct did not pick up typo error, I meant to say Bow

    No sweat. It's inevitable not to mistype, considering we appear to be moving at the speed of light to get our thoughts across. For that reason, even the best writers can become suceptible to erros.  

    #61250

    Storm
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    @sarah, yes of course

    serg wrote:

    I was in such a similar situation as you were. I remember telling people that they were not going to be saved too. I had doubts about them while attending but never dared to ask questions because I had already seen what they would say. Anyway, I am glad we were able to open our eyes and leave that place.

     Serg, we are blessed to have seen what others can not see.  I remember before going preaching after all my studies were done and I still had lots of doubts on things here and there.  I would pray right before leaving the church and I would say God please if this is not your true church, please don't let me and my preaching partner bare fruit.

    When my parnter preached to people I would just listen and not say a word.  When we (rather my partner) was rejected, I  felt such a relieve.  I would thank God that he was listening to my prayer,  I did not want to preach to anyone something I did not even believe in.  I could not be a hypocrite leading others to destruction.

    Well since I was not bearing any fruit obviously I was treated differently from the others, I guess I stuck out like a sore thumb lol.

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