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Ahn supposedly said this in the preface of one of his books. Is there any proof of this? I asked the pastor of l.a.cog and he said "if only you read korean" I asked for proof but there was none… anyone?
Yes, good discovery! And besides…how could he follow Zhang when she hasn’t written any of her own “truth” books LOL
Disturbed wrote:
Yes, good discovery! And besides…how could he follow Zhang when she hasn't written any of her own "truth" books LOL
He followed dat A$$ lol.. JK
emil wrote:
Elijah and Elisha were both prophets. If he using them as analogous to himself and mother, then the words he uses imply that he is Elisha and mother is Elijah. But since Elisha followed Elijah, having physically come after Elijah, for this analogy to work, ASH would have to physically come after mother. In that case, Ash can't be refering to Zahng in that sentence since she followed him.
Nice one.
Well follow wasn’t meant chronologically (according to them) but obedience and submitting
Even so, the analogy leads you nowhere near the idea of them being gods. Neither Elisha, nor Elijah was God. So if he used them figuratively, it means he acknowledged neither he not Zahng were God.
It was only used to show authority and submission herenot proof she was God
It was only used to show authority and submission herenot proof she was God
Don't they use that quote of Ash to say he pointed to Mother as God?
Not here. Might reinforce the notion but it isn’t used to set up the notion
Yes Emil they use that quote to say he acknowledged Zhang as mother. It was told to us to follow his example and since he said, "I follow mother." we should as well.
This is a new realization for me. First they used part verses from the bible to twist their meaning. Now they do that with Ash's writing as well? Place that "I follow mother" in the context of the Elijah/Elisha relationship and suddenly the idea of either of them being gods goes out the window. Why would a true God use mere humans to be compared with?
This is the exact quote:
“Elisha followed Elijah, Joshua followed Moses, Peter followed Jesus, and I follow mother”
They’ve been twisting Ash’s writings all along beginning with the books. They say chapter 35 in his “green book” is about mother. I read it over & over many times and NEVER got that it was about Zhang. Looking back I think it’s crazy that he directly spoke about Passover and other things but when they “claim” he was speaking about mother there are no direct writings except to say there is no mother god. Only some photoshopped photos to claim he spiritually married Zhang and revealed her as mother god. Where are all the elders who witnessed this? They haven’t said a word about this. But then again would you if you were making the kind of hush money they’re probably getting?
Ash is probably rolling over in his grave in Korea at the mere thought that these people are claiming that him and his girlfriend are gods. I bet he didn’t see that coming!
God compared himself to mere humans before
Doesn’t make ahn even close to being god
Disturbed wrote:
This is the exact quote:
"Elisha followed Elijah, Joshua followed Moses, Peter followed Jesus, and I follow mother"
Where is that quote from Disturbed? Is it from a book or is it in your notes taken during their teaching?
Simon wrote:
God compared himself to mere humans before
Doesn't make ahn even close to being god
Can you remember/find the verses?
Can’t remember the verses but both Moses and Peter call Jesus a prophet like Moses
And Paul says Adam is a pattern of Jesus
There’s more abstract comparisons and arguable comparisons but those are the two definitive ones I can think of
Simon wrote:
Can't remember the verses but both Moses and Peter call Jesus a prophet like Moses
And Paul says Adam is a pattern of Jesus
There's more abstract comparisons and arguable comparisons but those are the two definitive ones I can think of
Peter compares Jesus to Moses and Elijah in the scene of the transfiguration but scripture goes on to say that he did not realize what he was saying. As regards Paul comparing Adam and Jesus, it is more a contrast than a comparison. In both cases it wasn't God who did the comparing anyway.
Wrong section for Peter (now I’m thinking maybe Stephen) I’m talking acts where it says it was the holy spirit Deut is.also Yehovah dir directly talking and Moses quoting him
Also as scripture says scripture is of the holy spirit so except where Paul says otherwise we should assume God is directly responsible for the message
The quote is allegedly in Ash’s handwritten notes. Since I don’t read Korean I am unable to confirm that’s what he really wrote…can only go by what the church has told us (as usual).
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