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So take it court Joshua, without proof, even testimony does not hold up. Don't compare yours or others word to that of the apostles and God, the bible is testimony from prophets moved by the holy spirit so don't even think their words are the same, as we can see with Dianes testimony PEOPLE lie. Go back and watch her "testimony" if even I can see the faults in it a lawyer would rip it apart throw it right back in her face.
48:40 Daine sounds pretty upset no one called her after she left "Not one person" Almost looks like she was really upset about it.
Diane even says the pastor called looking for her.After service hmm she was sick for four days. Guess who else Call her, the one we call Mother herself? hmm even to mock her, I wonder which is no one or some called.
So is this another one of those testimonies your talking about Joshua?
By your logic a person can claim you physically assaulted them and get a court to convict you with just their testimony, but with out the scratches and bruises there testimony is pointless, just same you need physical evidence.
And I hope you are better at counting than you are at spelling! Just joking!
And, FTOS, if you see my "relative" please tell him his family all loves him, and we always will, no matter what. We understand what has happened, and we don't blame him. Also, tell him you lied to him. None of us will ever come into that "church," no matter how long he preaches. If we thought it was a good place we would all definitely jump in line. But it isn't and we can't go there, ever. From talking to many people I understand that even the Mother has told people directly their whole family will come in if they just don't give up preaching. She told someone that directly on a trip to S.Korea, and that person is now out of the church. No family went in, and that person is out. It isn't the only example. Also, I believe that the pastors and recruiters tell their new recruits this. That is what I've heard. Sounds like a tactic.
People are simply told their family will all come in for two reasons: 1) So they don't give up preaching and staying in the church (and give money and recruit longer), and 2) So they are set up to argue with their loved ones to the point that they finally separate from them. The "isolation" tactic.
That is what I see.
Sarah2013 wrote:
Fear is not of God, period.
Lev 25:17 God says to fear Him and He says it repeatedly throughout the OT. Ecc 3:14 It appears that God is bestowing fear on people.
Yes. I was making reference to fear of man or the evil one. “Fear not, for I am with thee..” Type.
fromtheotherside wrote:
She has made it known her relative is from chicago. Her idnis mountainmom which leads me to believe she is caucasion her relative works for corp makes good money. Like i said ive been to cjicago mostly everyone is spanish or korean vry few caucasions withba good job. Also she likes the muntains illinois is flat land i know only one caucasion who used to live in a mountainous areab not to hard to figure out.
I'm going to ask you this again: Fromtheotherside,
Who wrote this:
The time that the tabernacle (New Jerusalem) see (21:3, 9-10) comes down is 1000 years after the end of the world. It is written, “Then I saw‘a new heaven and a new earth,’ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.” (Revelation 21:1).
and
Question (from those of us who "need to study more") Has the world ended and if so, has 1000 years passed already ?
I'm beginning to think that we are living in a giant bubble, set upon a giants toe.
Oops.
Why, Kim?
Kim wrote:
I'm beginning to think that we are living in a giant bubble, set upon a giants toe.
You mean like a zit or something?
Yeah… I get that feeling sometimes too.
@ Jesus of Nazareth: That's a good one, yes. Always out of context ๐ It's like these people have pages of the Bible taped together.. Oh, wait! They do.
Kim wrote:
Smurf wrote:
Kim wrote:
I'm beginning to think that we are living in a giant bubble, set upon a giants toe.
You mean like a zit or something?
Yeah… I get that feeling sometimes too.
dude! a zit!!! nah..i'd rather live in the bubble on top of a giant's toe.. lol
According to Osmosis Jones, the zit is where the party's at!
fromtheotherside wrote:
She has made it known her relative is from chicago. Her idnis mountainmom which leads me to believe she is caucasion her relative works for corp makes good money. Like i said ive been to cjicago mostly everyone is spanish or korean vry few caucasions withba good job. Also she likes the muntains illinois is flat land i know only one caucasion who used to live in a mountainous areab not to hard to figure out.
FTOS I'm impressed with your power of deduction. Now please read Dn 7 and post in the other thread what you understand.
Smurf wrote:
Kim wrote:
I'm beginning to think that we are living in a giant bubble, set upon a giants toe.
You mean like a zit or something?
Yeah… I get that feeling sometimes too.
@ Jesus of Nazareth: That's a good one, yes. Always out of context ๐ It's like these people have pages of the Bible taped together.. Oh, wait! They do.
Notice that he, [FTOS] will not answer because the think tank has not distributed it's answer yet. (it's at least the third time he's been asked in the threads) It's a tuffy. He ignors it like the plague. What a great book ol'Ahn wrote huh ? No wonder it was hidden for so long. (Hidden Manna, remember that one LOL) It's the polar opposite from what they teach. Someone mentioned getting Ahn, Kwang Sup over here for a conference, I think that would be great and I'm down to chip in to get him here, somewhere, anywhere. Perhaps Vegas or Florida or Chi town. Where ever.
Hey ๐ FTOS, I have a question: How do you know which verses of the Bible follow a chronological order and which verses don't?
Good question Smurf, but give FTOS a chance. Let him go at it one-by-one. Right now let him focus on JofN's question. FTOS that question is right here on this page itself. Here's the link to help you find it:
https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forum/topic.php?id=4699&page=5#post-20583
Smurf perhaps you can add your question in the Evidence regarding Antichrist …. thread where FTOS has to deal with the sequence in Dan 7.
I still haven't seen FTOS's response to Genny's question about why the wmscog has the feasts in the wrong month yet.
Smurf wrote:
Hey ๐ FTOS, I have a question: How do you know which verses of the Bible follow a chronological order and which verses don't?
I was told because ASH said so. Aka, God said so.
fromtheotherside wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Smurf wrote:
Kim wrote:
I'm beginning to think that we are living in a giant bubble, set upon a giants toe.
You mean like a zit or something?
Yeah… I get that feeling sometimes too.
@ Jesus of Nazareth: That's a good one, yes. Always out of context ๐ It's like these people have pages of the Bible taped together.. Oh, wait! They do.
Notice that he, [FTOS] will not answer because the think tank has not distributed it's answer yet. (it's at least the third time he's been asked in the threads) It's a tuffy. He ignors it like the plague. What a great book ol'Ahn wrote huh ? No wonder it was hidden for so long. (Hidden Manna, remember that one LOL) It's the polar opposite from what they teach. Someone mentioned getting Ahn, Kwang Sup over here for a conference, I think that would be great and I'm down to chip in to get him here, somewhere, anywhere. Perhaps Vegas or Florida or Chi town. Where ever.
What question are yhou talking about? You guys are talking about eachother's zits. Where's the question? Okay yes you have a zit, is that the answer you're looking for ?
YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS, YOU JUST CANNOT BE SERIOUS.
I'm going to ask you this again: Fromtheotherside,
Who wrote this:
The time that the tabernacle (New Jerusalem) see (21:3, 9-10) comes down is 1000 years after the end of the world. It is written, “Then I saw‘a new heaven and a new earth,’ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.”.
and
Question (from those of us who "need to study more") Has the world ended and if so, has 1000 years passed already ?
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED OF YOU MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT'S THE 4TH POSTING ON THIS PAGE.
fromtheotherside wrote:
First off devoting your life 100% to God doesn't mean you have to be a hermit in the church. I don't think you guys fully grasped what it is that is why you were unhappy. When i went to play Golf with my Father in law who is an unbeliever, did I not bring up the fact Passover was coming, that is working for God, I spoke to the man in the front desk about salvation and Passover, that is working for God. Being devoted and 100% living for God is that you strive to do what ever it is you are doing, to do God's work. That means when you go to your worldy profesion you do your best and give it 100% so you shine God's Glory, if your boss says "wow what a great worker, hes different from others!" you just shined God's glory. Or if your a student you try to be number 1, so through you and your accomplishments you can give glory to God. That is Mother's teaching, to do your best at what ever you do so when people look at you, people will know that something is different about you, and when they find out it's because you are christian then that is God's glory shone. You are 100% devoting your life to God. Golf is not a devils' sport, it cleaner than playing pool around drunks and smokers.
secondly, we don't need the "acceptance" of our religion or belief from our families. So if your parents don't accept your religion then your going to change for them, that is not faith, and you don't believe in God, or your beliefs are twisted. You should stand up for God!
Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Be Faithful even to the point of death, that means even if people don't accept your faith do not give in to them.
You know what ? Jesus had no problem being around Drunks and Smokers as you put it and if you have one sin you have them all. Let me tell you something Bucko, you have one sin (obviously) thus you have them all. Who are you (of all people on the planet) to look down on anyone ? Your family is the most important thing in the world. Even the one you call god doesn't agree with you. He held the diametric opposite belief of you people which is obvious again from his writings. Even at that, we show you what he said and you turn around with some cacophony of cockamamie claptrap excuse (which you could not have possibly come up with on your own) and say well yes, of course that's what it says but that's not what it means. So even looking undeniable truth right in the face, in the mans own words yet, with his blood relatives to back that up, you still oppose and stay on the other side. I definitely would rather laugh with any sinners than cry with your "saints". I would rather laugh.
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