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- February 26, 2013 at 6:00 AM#7152fromtheothersideParticipant
So take it court Joshua, without proof, even testimony does not hold up. Don't compare yours or others word to that of the apostles and God, the bible is testimony from prophets moved by the holy spirit so don't even think their words are the same, as we can see with Dianes testimony PEOPLE lie. Go back and watch her "testimony" if even I can see the faults in it a lawyer would rip it apart throw it right back in her face.
48:40 Daine sounds pretty upset no one called her after she left "Not one person" Almost looks like she was really upset about it.
Diane even says the pastor called looking for her.After service hmm she was sick for four days. Guess who else Call her, the one we call Mother herself? hmm even to mock her, I wonder which is no one or some called.
So is this another one of those testimonies your talking about Joshua?
By your logic a person can claim you physically assaulted them and get a court to convict you with just their testimony, but with out the scratches and bruises there testimony is pointless, just same you need physical evidence.
- February 28, 2013 at 3:15 AM #54696
fromtheothersideParticipantAnd if guys haven't notice Diane has been removed from the homepage. If admin blocks me then everyone will realize that he did it only because I'm making a dent. There's people watching.
February 28, 2013 at 3:36 AM #54697
Love'n HoneyParticipantContrary to what people think the reason you were blocked, you have broken the rules and should be blocked. Whether the 'lies' on this site are coming to light or not.
February 28, 2013 at 3:55 AM #54698
fedupmomParticipantFtos, I am not sure what you are saying. However, I do not have hate for you or any other members of WMSCOG, rather I have sympathy for you and deception you are under. I only wish you and the others who have been deceived, peace and freedom….
February 28, 2013 at 4:25 AM #54699
emilParticipantfromtheotherside wrote:
Actually this wasn't for you guys, you guys know it's lies and accept it, this is for new comers so they see the lies on this site and false accusations.
I really wish you or any other member of wmscog could just for once point out specific lies and false accusations rather than going on in a vague manner.
February 28, 2013 at 4:34 AM #54700
fromtheothersideParticipantFor new readers, Dianes video testimony as I have pointed out there are obvious lies and indescreptancies, that is why her testimony has been removed from the home page and Ron's is the only one left.
February 28, 2013 at 4:39 AM #54701
SimonParticipantDiane's video is still posted
February 28, 2013 at 4:40 AM #54702
fromtheothersideParticipantnot on the homepage as it used to be
February 28, 2013 at 4:42 AM #54703
SimonParticipantand the "no one called" is again hyperbole not a lie
February 28, 2013 at 4:52 AM #54704
fromtheothersideParticipantit be great if she provided the voice recording wouldn't it, I think Elie put in the request to hear it, hmm no reply.
hyperbole depends on how the person says that makes a lie or hyperbole.
"No one care that I didn't come out anymore. but I don't blame them they probably thought I was possesed by a demon and stayed away " This can be taken as a hyperbole.
"Not ONE person called to checkup one me, is this love, they have no love they don't know love?" This is a lie, especially when you use it against someone it becomes a lie.
If you were sick from your job at microsoft and bill gates called to check in on you, then that's obvious that the company cares about you. To use tht against the company then thats an out right lie in order to slander.
February 28, 2013 at 5:17 AM #54705
SimonParticipantits hyperbole dude having experienced almost no contact I understand her experience…
WMSCOG told us not to contact her or her husband… I couldn't have anyways because I didn't know her that well but that's wholly another issue I was still told by my Deacon not to. I would imagine others were told the same
February 28, 2013 at 5:18 AM #54706
SimonParticipantAnd how would Diane know Eli wanted to hear the recording, does she come to this website continually?
Though I agree it would be interesting to hear…
February 28, 2013 at 5:21 AM #54707
fromtheothersideParticipantElie made a request on this site by comment under dianes video.
Mother doesn't call anyone.
It's like saying "after being shot in the war and in the hospital no one came to see me I felt so unappreciated by my own country after I bleed for them" and saying " yea the president came and shook my hand not a big deal"
February 28, 2013 at 5:29 AM #54708
SimonParticipantfromtheotherside wrote:
Elie made a request on this site by comment under dianes video.
of course Diane will need to see it to supply it.. if she has it
Mother doesn't call anyone.
I was told she has done so… why does WATV ask for your phone number when you write Mother if she doesn't?
It's like saying "after being shot in the war and in the hospital no one came to see me I felt so unappreciated by my own country after I bleed for them" and saying " yea the president came and shook my hand not a big deal"
if you believe you have someone attempting to brain wash you and the alleged brainwasher calls you and the alleged brainwashed do not it appears that they were seeing if you were still a cashcow or not. and when they saw you weren't you were cut off.
February 28, 2013 at 5:31 AM #54709
SimonParticipantPastor Daniel and Deaconess Cesi and Zhang are 3 out of how many all of which are people in power not her friends who you'd expect to call
February 28, 2013 at 5:45 AM #54710
fromtheothersideParticipantSimon wrote:
fromtheotherside wrote:
Elie made a request on this site by comment under dianes video.
of course Diane will need to see it to supply it.. if she has it
Mother doesn't call anyone.
I was told she has done so… why does WATV ask for your phone number when you write Mother if she doesn't?
It's like saying "after being shot in the war and in the hospital no one came to see me I felt so unappreciated by my own country after I bleed for them" and saying " yea the president came and shook my hand not a big deal"
if you believe you have someone attempting to brain wash you and the alleged brainwasher calls you and the alleged brainwashed do not it appears that they were seeing if you were still a cashcow or not. and when they saw you weren't you were cut p
PROOF??
February 28, 2013 at 5:47 AM #54711
fromtheothersideParticipantAnd rarely does she call anyone. Did she call you?
February 28, 2013 at 6:29 AM #54712
emilParticipantfromtheotherside wrote:
it be great if she provided the voice recording wouldn't it, I think Elie put in the request to hear it, hmm no reply.
hyperbole depends on how the person says that makes a lie or hyperbole.
"No one care that I didn't come out anymore. but I don't blame them they probably thought I was possesed by a demon and stayed away " This can be taken as a hyperbole.
"Not ONE person called to checkup one me, is this love, they have no love they don't know love?" This is a lie, especially when you use it against someone it becomes a lie.
If you were sick from your job at microsoft and bill gates called to check in on you, then that's obvious that the company cares about you. To use tht against the company then thats an out right lie in order to slander.
To be honest, I have not heard the video so I do not know the context of the statements quoted. Standing by themselves, I don't know how one could say they are lies. Perhaps there is something I do not know.
February 28, 2013 at 7:14 AM #54713
gennyParticipantfromtheotherside, do you remember in another thread we were talking about whether or not it was ok for people to lie? I believe it was this one: https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forum/topic.php?id=4657
Would you please confirm what your position is on that? Is it ok for people to lie?
(This is not a comment on whether or not Diane lied, just about lying in general.)
February 28, 2013 at 7:24 AM #54714
fromtheothersideParticipantGenny I believe like abraham who lied to the kings and said sarah was his sister and like Isaac who did to save his life. Did God punish them in any way that you can see in the bible, on the contrary they were blessed overflowingly. There was not an incling of god be disapointed or angry about their lie. I believe somethings can be justifed in God's eye's depending on the situation. If God is not against what I do then I am not sinning but if God judges otherwise. then it is God's decision. God is Judge of what is right and wrong.
February 28, 2013 at 7:31 AM #54715
gennyParticipantfromtheotherside wrote:
Genny I believe like abraham who lied to the kings and said sarah was his sister and like Isaac who did to save his life. Did God punish them in any way that you can see in the bible, on the contrary they were blessed overflowingly. There was not an incling of god be disapointed or angry about their lie. I believe somethings can be justifed in God's eye's depending on the situation. If God is not against what I do then I am not sinning but if God judges otherwise. then it is God's decision. God is Judge of what is right and wrong.
So you believe lying is ok. How do you know when it is ok to lie and when it is not ok?
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