New video from the Church about this site.

  • #69041

    Abhigail Delema
    Participant

    As they say (it seems that their allegations and claims have some credibility),i was really happy to hear that that shows they partly agree with us.Firstly they need to realize that Jesus forgave a mans sin ,he did not teach him to lie,or tell his followers to talk bad about the people who did not belive in him.Jesus also thought his followers give god what is gods and give Caesar what is Caesar,but here in India you people do all the dirty work not paying Taxes i mean converting Indian rupees in dollars in the black market,converting poor people which are a majority,abortions,vasatomy ,illegal korean entry in the country.Jesus also never thought his disiples to sue people in court as you people in the WMSCOG do.Eveyone knows Jesus was pure and blameless and the Pharisees could not find any evidence against him, but here you see on this site you have a lot of evidence with proof to prove that the WMSCOG is false.Being in this cult many times you have showed us some of your home made  vedios as you have us and made one now, that mother can hear father footsteps the time is very near and gave some of your teachings like Seven thunders,I have already come etc and made us belive here in India 2012 will be the end.

    Instead i would say that the WMSCOG are Pharisees who take words out of context in the bible and have cunning ways and methods to make members hear and belive what their itching ears want to hear .They need to know that there is no book in the bible written in the veiw point of the WMSCOG as they claim and ,we reject their false gods.

    My humble request to present members who are still caught in cult,if you want to know more about the Wmscog,dont listen to the false videos they make on you tube and force members to speak good about Zion etc,instaed go and search the real truth what are their real motives behind this organization ,is it salvation of souls as they claim or is it a mordern money making cult. We love you foundation, Big shine etc.

    #69042

    Kai TIng
    Participant

    Excellent high quality video! -claps-

    One thing that really ticked me off was that Jesus set people free from the laws, and yet the wmscog want to have salvation by works and deeds. They also down play Jesus alot and totally neglect his sacrifice for Christians when he died on the cross. Pharisees? You mean those people who think they are righteous because they are keeping the laws, but are total hypocrites themselves? Reminds us of a certain organisation today don't they?

    Lovely how they like to quote Matthew 7:21 as justification, and ignores Matthew 7:1 through 7:20. Well done.

    I guess you can't be reborn as Buhdda or Mohammed, so better start a cult by being reborn as Jesus =)

    #69043

    Kai TIng
    Participant

    Hahah guys check out the first commenter Gwendolyn Faraday from youtube! No uploaded video, no liked video, no subscribed channel, haha maybe youtube should tighten their account creation process!

    #69044

    Azula
    Participant

    Kai TIng wrote:

    Excellent high quality video! -claps-

    One thing that really ticked me off was that Jesus set people free from the laws, and yet the wmscog want to have salvation by works and deeds. They also down play Jesus alot and totally neglect his sacrifice for Christians when he died on the cross. Pharisees? You mean those people who think they are righteous because they are keeping the laws, but are total hypocrites themselves? …..

    Took the words outta my mouth!

    #69045

    Brian Taylor
    Participant

    Hey everyone! This Is incredible! Im going to make a video response as soon as I get off work! I’m in a heated exchange with the maker off the video under the name ” koba soso” lets all comment and show them that their lies will not prevail and that we are not scared of them!!!!

    #69046

    MountainMom
    Participant

    Wow!  They really are spun up by this site! That is very encouraging.  I have noticed a huge uptick in the number of postings on the site in the last three weeks or so, too.  This site is still doing very good work.  That is why the leaders hate it so much.

    #69047

    MountainMom
    Participant

    I read the comment there where the maker of the video maligns Steve Hassan, calling him some kind of religious leader of this site.  That is completely laughable.  There were problems with the Wms destroying families, etc., well before Steve Hassan even knew about them.  If I remember right, Steve wasn't aware they were a growing problem untill around 2010.  He got involved because parents were so desperate to get their kids out of this group that they started contacting him on a regular basis.  He didn't start some kind of religious movement, he was just helping people who asked him for help because their kids lives were being derailed, and parents were seeing that their kids were being separated from them and being subjected to mind control. 

    The Wms demonized Steve Hassan with particular viciousness because he has been successful at getting young people out of their before the Wms was done using them. 

    #69048

    Kai TIng
    Participant

    Im reporting every fake account on youtube and calling them out to be one. I am not sure how the youtube account system works but I am hoping to get those fake accounts banned, just to let the wmscog do some extra work when deceiving people

    #69049

    MountainMom
    Participant

    The Wms has flooded that video comment section with positive replies.  Lol!  That is what they always do, even though they are normally not supposed to be on the internet, since that is "eating from the tree of knowledge."    I figure they get special permission to go on the internet just for that purpose. 

    Every time there is an article in the paper they do the same in the comment section under the article as well. 

    #69050

    jw03550
    Participant

    MountainMom wrote:

    even though they are normally not supposed to be on the internet, since that is "eating from the tree of knowledge."    I figure they get special permission to go on the internet just for that purpose.

    double set of ethics allows to break the rules

    probably shared before?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkOtU7ldK8I

    #69051

    UntouchableJ
    Participant

    The members are “Told” to respond to the videos. When the, “I have already come” video hit youtube, it didnt dawn on me that part of being told to “respond or like thr video 6-8 times” was for monetary gain (Youtube starts paying you when you videos go over 1million…its not a huge sum, but if your video has a HUGE number of views, like “Gangnam Style” reaching 1billion, it adds up).

    Also, there were a huge number of Church member testimony videos. All of the members would have account names created. So, you would see the videks have the same tell tale sign. Members accounts would be for instances;

    WMSCOG Bill, WMSCOG Mary, WMSCOG Bubba. So obvious.But Ive learned that their doctrine and social changes are DIRECTLY linked to what members say as they leave the church, AND, as they share stories on the web.

    #69052

    Brian Taylor
    Participant

    I made a response to this video XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIS19msl94U

    #69053

    MountainMom
    Participant

    UntouchableJ wrote:

    The members are "Told" to respond to the videos. When the, "I have already come" video hit youtube, it didnt dawn on me that part of being told to "respond or like thr video 6-8 times" was for monetary gain (Youtube starts paying you when you videos go over 1million…its not a huge sum, but if your video has a HUGE number of views, like "Gangnam Style" reaching 1billion, it adds up).

    Also, there were a huge number of Church member testimony videos. All of the members would have account names created. So, you would see the videks have the same tell tale sign. Members accounts would be for instances;

    WMSCOG Bill, WMSCOG Mary, WMSCOG Bubba. So obvious.But Ive learned that their doctrine and social changes are DIRECTLY linked to what members say as they leave the church, AND, as they share stories on the web.

     Thank you for verifying what I always figured was true: members are "Told" to respond to the videos.  I believe the positive replies are another manipulation orchestrated by the leaders of the Wms. 

    #69054

    Kai TIng
    Participant

    Haha and my call out on them being fake accounts were deleted as well ๐Ÿ™‚

    Hey "god ash and mama", strike us and send us to hell already wouldn't ya? I getting impatient with all this waiting!

    #69055

    UntouchableJ
    Participant

    Let me clarify further. We WERE told to respond to a video once, when I was in Zion. So the point I male, its not foreign. If you don’t beleive me…..how did members FIND that new video? To be notified on youtube one of 3 things happen;

    1. You subscribe to that channel

    2. Your searching for a related topic

    3. You were told to go there

    #69056

    Mayor and Mike
    Participant

    I can’t believe the maker of that video called us liers. We are all speaking the truth about our WMS experiences. We are witnesses of WMS. All that we have seen and heard are very credible. We are not Pharisees. We are not religious leaders. We are true witnesses.

    #69057

    Mayor and Mike
    Participant

    You guys are funny. I like that you see what’s going on here. Keep shining the light of truth on them.

    #69058

    UntouchableJ
    Participant

    I posted a comment about the fake accounta, and they didnt take it down. I honesly want to write a book about my story, lol. Im convinced that battling scripture for scripture won’t work, because they are master manipulators…but they can’t justify the Acts and comments they do and make.

    #69059

    Kai TIng
    Participant

    Actually I used scriptures when I left lol either that person not very well versed or idk…lol. Either case it resulted in something like "god can change scripture however he wants" so yep, time to go!

    #69060

    UntouchableJ
    Participant

    @kai I remember showing a deacon, major Flawd in, “The Bible is Fact”. When I showed him in Proverbs that at the beginning of the chspter, “WISDOM” was speaking, and not King Solomon. The deacon said, “Well doesn’t God wisdom?”. I looked at him as if he had 3 heads, because the answer was so stupid.

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