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Hello Everyone,
My wife has been with the church for about a little over a year and there is nothing I can do to take her away from it and fighting with her about it she just says I only look at the negative and not the positive. She is hardcore to this church more dedicated then I have ever seen her do then any thing ever ever.
She crys when she prays come on and now I think they she has been hiding money from me to give to the church from what I have been reading on this site….
I'm not prefect but would concider my self to be a good person in most cases I would give you the shirt off my back if one needed it.
I just cant kick this church and its just turning her into a liar.
I would like to just meet up with others that might have the same problem or have had it happen.
Dont waste your time if your with the church contacting me………………………………
Harry's is certainly a good test. I have checked out some of their websites and blogs. I can tell you they even consider it blasphemy if you call Ahn "Ahn". They insist he should be called "Christ Ahnsahnghong" or "Ahnsahnghong" at the very least.
No Christian I know would consider that calling our saviour "Jesus" is blasphemous but somehow their god diminishes if you fail to use his full name.
Jamesmoore wrote:
To be honest I dont know who to believe on here or who is with the church or not.
Understandable, James. This group, like so many other spiritually abusive groups, has members that not only spy on each other they also spy on their families in the form of reporting back to the group your behavior. Of course, the members do not see it that way.
I just heard a video in which JFK was talking about how the people of the United States reject secrecy, cabals, secret meetings, deception, and secret decisions (my how things have changed??). The people that regularly post here are in favor of open information and debate – that being said we're not stupid; this group, like many other spiritually abusive groups, uses litigation to shut people up. I use a pseudonym, as should everyone, imho. Beyond that, freedom of information is encouraged because that is first and foremost the problem with totalistic groups – they shut off information that they cannot control. Here's a test – youtube search "wmscog testimony" and one will find countless claims of "slander/slanderers", but not so much as one example of slander. I posit that the members would actually have to research the other side, and there are reasons that members won't do it.
I was suspect of your posts. Something is off. Both Hassan and Rick Ross give a freebie first call – last time I checked. Do your research; there are others.
#1 rule, love your loved one because the group has fake love and real love wins in the end.
Lastly, emil's is a good litmus test.
Jamesmoore wrote:
Thanks you again to everyone its really hard to read every thing and under stand where its coming from. This morning after fighting with my wife all night about the church I told her that she is going to lose her family if she does not meet me in the middle and let me know whats going on. I got down on my hands and knees and begged her to meet me in the middle and stop lying about where the money is going. I got the reply that I have no friends in our town and the church are my only friends and she kept going on about how I'm controlling her.
Dear James, Would you like to know why I get paid the big bucks? Well, I get paid the big bucks to know when someone is full of s//h//i//t and you my friend are 100% full of s//h//i/t now get the phuck out of here and leave these people alone. trust me it's not funny now go away. Oh and buy a new computer cause my IT guy will find you in 24 hours….last warning
Thank you Q and yes real love always wins in the end….that's the key james in case you ever really want to know
Jamesmoore wrote:
Hello Everyone,
My wife has been with the church for about a little over a year and there is nothing I can do to take her away from it and fighting with her about it she just says I only look at the negative and not the positive. She is hardcore to this church more dedicated then I have ever seen her do then any thing ever ever.
She crys when she prays come on and now I think they she has been hiding money from me to give to the church from what I have been reading on this site….
I'm not prefect but would concider my self to be a good person in most cases I would give you the shirt off my back if one needed it.
I just cant kick this church and its just turning her into a liar.
I would like to just meet up with others that might have the same problem or have had it happen.
Dont waste your time if your with the church contacting me………………………………
It is crazy. I have gone through something very similar
And it is also crazy how it turns them into liars. I am talking about people whom would never lie
Lying all the time.. easily. Without a problem.
The worst part is that we're human.. and we hold grudges.
Even when these people heal and wake-up… I just won't accept that as an excuse
because somewhere in there is some concious thinking and intent.
jambo3 wrote:
Jamesmoore wrote:
Hello Everyone,
My wife has been with the church for about a little over a year and there is nothing I can do to take her away from it and fighting with her about it she just says I only look at the negative and not the positive. She is hardcore to this church more dedicated then I have ever seen her do then any thing ever ever.
She crys when she prays come on and now I think they she has been hiding money from me to give to the church from what I have been reading on this site….
I'm not prefect but would concider my self to be a good person in most cases I would give you the shirt off my back if one needed it.
I just cant kick this church and its just turning her into a liar.
I would like to just meet up with others that might have the same problem or have had it happen.
Dont waste your time if your with the church contacting me………………………………
It is crazy. I have gone through something very similar
And it is also crazy how it turns them into liars. I am talking about people whom would never lie
Lying all the time.. easily. Without a problem.
The worst part is that we're human.. and we hold grudges.
Even when these people heal and wake-up… I just won't accept that as an excuse
because somewhere in there is some concious thinking and intent.
Btw, I totally disagree, there is NO conscious thinking and intent. They have NO idea whats happening to them. Everyone says the same thing, "this is the last person we would ever expect this to happen to" I do believe and it's just my opinion but it seems that people of higher intellect are more likely to get roped into this. But that could also be because the wmscog targets people who look or act more successful. I doubt they throw many fish back but they def want the "big fish".
It doesn't make sense to hold a grudge against someone who thinks they are involved with the wms to save you. and don't ever let them think you are going to hold them accountable for what has happened to them, they are victims. Always tell them the door is open and the light is on. I know someone who woke up but stayed in almost an entire year because she didn't want to hear her family say, "we told you so". Yeah, you should have seen that mother's face when i told her, her kid has been out a year and she was just too afraid to tell her family. Get your family out and sort it out later. It makes sense that they will need profesional help when they come out don't make it tougher on them.
I totally understand what you are feeling, Jambo, about being human and harboring grudges. But try not to do that because it makes it harder to get them out and help them cope afterward. They definitely will need some counseling afterwards, as Harry says.
You are simply being honest about your pain here, and none of us are judging you because we have all felt it, and continue to feel it. But Harry is right, and we have to keep in mind that they are victims too, and they are going to have a tough time dealing with what they have done when they are finally out.
Somebody told me that I have to forgive, and if I can't I should pray to God for the ability to forgive. That really helped me.
Soon world mission church members will realize, and search for truth. I don’t want them to call “church of god” because their church name is WMC in short and in detail their name is World Mission Society Church of God. According to bible there is only Church of God.
as a legal entity they are required to use a less generic name I believe (I mean yes they are false but it isn't as though calling themselves "church of God" is any more deceptive than World Mission Society Church of God)
Simon wrote:
as a legal entity they are required to use a less generic name I believe (I mean yes they are false but it isn't as though calling themselves "church of God" is any more deceptive than World Mission Society Church of God)
I think a lot of people don't realize that originally wmscog stood for world mission society church of GARBAGE but they were having trouble selling that so they changed it to god. That's actually true, I researched it.
It's NOT a church, it's a CULT, they brainwash people and use the bible as their weapon! Could we please try not to forget that!
Sorry if that upsets anyone but it happens to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth! (memorize that line Dano, your going to be hearing it alot in the very near future) I'm really surprised you haven't run back to Korea already! When you do ALL your members will know your full of (removed for rules)
I know, I know, oy vey, Harry's back!
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