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  • #7434
    Freedfromreseda
    Participant

    The members of reseda Zion were told Jerusalem is physical. I thought it was spiritual! How can Jerusalem come down out of heaven (after 1,000 years LOL) if Jerusalem is physically here?!

    It’s almost like whoever is dreaming up these crappy sermons is daring the members to think about this and leave. Well guess what? It’s happening. The members are discussing this nonsense and are preparing to leave. The members are waking up & leaving. Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!

  • #63884

    emil
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

     

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

    What? And here I thought you knew everything. ๐Ÿ™‚

    My take: They need Ahn. He is the ideal hook on which they can hang their deity Zahng. Without the Ahn hook, Zahng would have to float on air for deityhood.

    #28699

    emil
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

     

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

    What? And here I thought you knew everything. ๐Ÿ™‚

    My take: They need Ahn. He is the ideal hook on which they can hang their deity Zahng. Without the Ahn hook, Zahng would have to float on air for deityhood.

    #28695

    Carlos
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

    #63885

    Carlos
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

    #28694

    Hobbit
    Participant

    I think in the same way WMSCOG should say "probably, perhaps, in my opinion Ahnsahnghong is Second Coming of Christ". And it's ok for people to have opinions, that's not a problem. By Chief Pastor they mean General Pastor. http://english.watv.org/press/content.asp?idx=952 The church calls him Chief Pastor sometimes as well. Are you still a member? I still go.

    #63886

    Hobbit
    Participant

    I think in the same way WMSCOG should say "probably, perhaps, in my opinion Ahnsahnghong is Second Coming of Christ". And it's ok for people to have opinions, that's not a problem. By Chief Pastor they mean General Pastor. http://english.watv.org/press/content.asp?idx=952 The church calls him Chief Pastor sometimes as well. Are you still a member? I still go.

    #28606

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

     

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

     Oh, hai! >.<

    The books are altered. I remember in a service, a brother was reading outloud from a chapter and the words were a little different. When I asked my Missionary about it she said I had the latest version. People can't honestly deny that the books are altered. Plus, 2 different churches claim to have the original books written by Ash. One [or both] of them is lying. I don't know much about the alleged law suit between the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG but there very well should be one. There's major plagarism* going on here! Doesn't the family of Ash care about his reputation? If it were my dad I would definitely take the necessary actions to prevent other people from spreading lies and defaming the family name..

    #63887

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

     

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

     Oh, hai! >.<

    The books are altered. I remember in a service, a brother was reading outloud from a chapter and the words were a little different. When I asked my Missionary about it she said I had the latest version. People can't honestly deny that the books are altered. Plus, 2 different churches claim to have the original books written by Ash. One [or both] of them is lying. I don't know much about the alleged law suit between the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG but there very well should be one. There's major plagarism* going on here! Doesn't the family of Ash care about his reputation? If it were my dad I would definitely take the necessary actions to prevent other people from spreading lies and defaming the family name..

    #63888

    Ram Koirala
    Participant

    Yes I would do same as you. now I planning to join NCPCOG to know details and fact about every thing.

    #28414

    Ram Koirala
    Participant

    Yes I would do same as you. now I planning to join NCPCOG to know details and fact about every thing.

    #63889

    Jesus of Nazareth
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

     HERE YOU GO:  CHIEF PASTOR

    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/1531191/joo-kim 

    #28407

    Jesus of Nazareth
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

     HERE YOU GO:  CHIEF PASTOR

    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/1531191/joo-kim 

    #28412

    Stained
    Participant

    Meaning of phrases used in this forum:

    Lesson [1]

    Kwan Sa Nim means:  My Balls itch please get me some flea powder. 

    Just another attempt to keep you well informed by the all knowing (believe that) all knowing, all seeing, all wonderous and powerful [STAINED].

    You're Welcome.

    #63890

    Stained
    Participant

    Meaning of phrases used in this forum:

    Lesson [1]

    Kwan Sa Nim means:  My Balls itch please get me some flea powder. 

    Just another attempt to keep you well informed by the all knowing (believe that) all knowing, all seeing, all wonderous and powerful [STAINED].

    You're Welcome.

    #28413

    genny
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

     HERE YOU GO:  CHIEF PASTOR

    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/1531191/joo-kim 

    Interesting that it lists Mr. Kim's residence as the United Kingdom.

    It also lists his nationality as South Korea (now that one I believe).

    And that brings me back to the Presidential Service Award, which was supposedly given to him even though he is not a resident or a citizen, and only citizens of the USA are elligible for it.

    #63891

    genny
    Participant

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

     HERE YOU GO:  CHIEF PASTOR

    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/1531191/joo-kim 

    Interesting that it lists Mr. Kim's residence as the United Kingdom.

    It also lists his nationality as South Korea (now that one I believe).

    And that brings me back to the Presidential Service Award, which was supposedly given to him even though he is not a resident or a citizen, and only citizens of the USA are elligible for it.

    #63892

    Love
    Participant

    Presidential Service Award must take back and start investigation.

    #28355

    Love
    Participant

    Presidential Service Award must take back and start investigation.

    #28364

    Jesus of Nazareth
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

    And 

    Don't tell me what I "mean to say".  If I wanted to say something, I'd say it; for Stained has granted me powers far beyond those of Mortal Man.

    #63893

    Jesus of Nazareth
    Participant

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    Carlos wrote:

    Jesus of Nazareth wrote:

    YoMomma SoFat wrote:

    My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?

    The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?

     Here's his Books.  In his own words and hand-writing.  Ahhh, good to be back.

    http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=23

    Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact

    Listen here:  Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS.  They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us.  If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim.  Is that not obvious to you ?

     Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before

    And 

    Don't tell me what I "mean to say".  If I wanted to say something, I'd say it; for Stained has granted me powers far beyond those of Mortal Man.

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