- CreatorTopic
- July 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM#7434FreedfromresedaParticipant
The members of reseda Zion were told Jerusalem is physical. I thought it was spiritual! How can Jerusalem come down out of heaven (after 1,000 years LOL) if Jerusalem is physically here?!
It’s almost like whoever is dreaming up these crappy sermons is daring the members to think about this and leave. Well guess what? It’s happening. The members are discussing this nonsense and are preparing to leave. The members are waking up & leaving. Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!
- August 13, 2013 at 6:27 AM #63884
emilParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
What? And here I thought you knew everything. ๐
My take: They need Ahn. He is the ideal hook on which they can hang their deity Zahng. Without the Ahn hook, Zahng would have to float on air for deityhood.
August 13, 2013 at 6:27 AM #28699
emilParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
What? And here I thought you knew everything. ๐
My take: They need Ahn. He is the ideal hook on which they can hang their deity Zahng. Without the Ahn hook, Zahng would have to float on air for deityhood.
August 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM #28695
CarlosParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
August 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM #63885
CarlosParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
August 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM #28694
HobbitParticipantI think in the same way WMSCOG should say "probably, perhaps, in my opinion Ahnsahnghong is Second Coming of Christ". And it's ok for people to have opinions, that's not a problem. By Chief Pastor they mean General Pastor. http://english.watv.org/press/content.asp?idx=952 The church calls him Chief Pastor sometimes as well. Are you still a member? I still go.
August 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM #63886
HobbitParticipantI think in the same way WMSCOG should say "probably, perhaps, in my opinion Ahnsahnghong is Second Coming of Christ". And it's ok for people to have opinions, that's not a problem. By Chief Pastor they mean General Pastor. http://english.watv.org/press/content.asp?idx=952 The church calls him Chief Pastor sometimes as well. Are you still a member? I still go.
August 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM #28606
Love'n HoneyParticipantCarlos wrote:
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Oh, hai! >.<
The books are altered. I remember in a service, a brother was reading outloud from a chapter and the words were a little different. When I asked my Missionary about it she said I had the latest version. People can't honestly deny that the books are altered. Plus, 2 different churches claim to have the original books written by Ash. One [or both] of them is lying. I don't know much about the alleged law suit between the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG but there very well should be one. There's major plagarism* going on here! Doesn't the family of Ash care about his reputation? If it were my dad I would definitely take the necessary actions to prevent other people from spreading lies and defaming the family name..
August 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM #63887
Love'n HoneyParticipantCarlos wrote:
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Oh, hai! >.<
The books are altered. I remember in a service, a brother was reading outloud from a chapter and the words were a little different. When I asked my Missionary about it she said I had the latest version. People can't honestly deny that the books are altered. Plus, 2 different churches claim to have the original books written by Ash. One [or both] of them is lying. I don't know much about the alleged law suit between the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG but there very well should be one. There's major plagarism* going on here! Doesn't the family of Ash care about his reputation? If it were my dad I would definitely take the necessary actions to prevent other people from spreading lies and defaming the family name..
August 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM #63888
Ram KoiralaParticipantYes I would do same as you. now I planning to join NCPCOG to know details and fact about every thing.
August 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM #28414
Ram KoiralaParticipantYes I would do same as you. now I planning to join NCPCOG to know details and fact about every thing.
August 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM #63889
Jesus of NazarethParticipantCarlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
HERE YOU GO: CHIEF PASTOR
August 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM #28407
Jesus of NazarethParticipantCarlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
HERE YOU GO: CHIEF PASTOR
August 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM #28412
StainedParticipantMeaning of phrases used in this forum:
Lesson [1]
Kwan Sa Nim means: My Balls itch please get me some flea powder.
Just another attempt to keep you well informed by the all knowing (believe that) all knowing, all seeing, all wonderous and powerful [STAINED].
You're Welcome.
August 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM #63890
StainedParticipantMeaning of phrases used in this forum:
Lesson [1]
Kwan Sa Nim means: My Balls itch please get me some flea powder.
Just another attempt to keep you well informed by the all knowing (believe that) all knowing, all seeing, all wonderous and powerful [STAINED].
You're Welcome.
August 16, 2013 at 5:44 AM #28413
gennyParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
HERE YOU GO: CHIEF PASTOR
Interesting that it lists Mr. Kim's residence as the United Kingdom.
It also lists his nationality as South Korea (now that one I believe).
And that brings me back to the Presidential Service Award, which was supposedly given to him even though he is not a resident or a citizen, and only citizens of the USA are elligible for it.
August 16, 2013 at 5:44 AM #63891
gennyParticipantJesus of Nazareth wrote:
HERE YOU GO: CHIEF PASTOR
Interesting that it lists Mr. Kim's residence as the United Kingdom.
It also lists his nationality as South Korea (now that one I believe).
And that brings me back to the Presidential Service Award, which was supposedly given to him even though he is not a resident or a citizen, and only citizens of the USA are elligible for it.
August 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM #63892
LoveParticipantPresidential Service Award must take back and start investigation.
August 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM #28355
LoveParticipantPresidential Service Award must take back and start investigation.
August 16, 2013 at 11:53 PM #28364
Jesus of NazarethParticipantCarlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
And
Don't tell me what I "mean to say". If I wanted to say something, I'd say it; for Stained has granted me powers far beyond those of Mortal Man.
August 16, 2013 at 11:53 PM #63893
Jesus of NazarethParticipantCarlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
YoMomma SoFat wrote:
My problem is this: Is what the WMSCOG doing legal in South Korea? And if not, why hasn't the operation been stopped?
The NCPCOG claims to have the actual writings of Ash while the WMSCOG claims the same. The contradiction is that the books, though very similar, have key differences. Did Ash write 2 different sets of books? I highly doubt it.. With today's technology, we don't need Ash to be alive to prove what he did/n't write. Did I miss the part where the NCPCOG sued the WMSCOG for claiming Ash's writings? Perhaps it was the other way around? Using someone's name in a false manner has to be illegal, right?
Here's his Books. In his own words and hand-writing. Ahhh, good to be back.
Who's to say which book was altered or for that matter how they should be interpreted. Further, I know of no lawsuit involving the NCPCOG and the WMSCOG. If that is true where can it be found? It's not my intention to be adverse but it seems your giving an opinion not necessarily stating a fact
Listen here: Ahn has nothing to do with the WMS. They're a spin off and why they claim Ahn at all is beyond many of us. If he were alive today, he'd be chief pastor @ NCPCOG and his wife Hwang Won Soon would be chief Kwan Sa Nim. Is that not obvious to you ?
Again you mean to say, probably or perhaps or in my opinion and what is a "chief pastor" I've never heard that term before
And
Don't tell me what I "mean to say". If I wanted to say something, I'd say it; for Stained has granted me powers far beyond those of Mortal Man.
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