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- November 15, 2012 at 2:32 AM#6998
- November 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM #48668
SimonParticipantunholy crap the zion the zion I attended branched out of has like 6 more branches now.
November 15, 2012 at 8:03 PM #48669
gennyParticipantRemember we were wondering how old 'mother' is? I saw in the description of one of the video say they were "commemmorating the 70th year of your [her] coming." So she was born in 1942 and is turning (or turned) 70 years old. That means that she and Ahn are approximately 24 years different in age.
November 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM #48670
gennyParticipantI just watched this one
The President's Call to Service Award has been written about here (https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/the-wmscog-awarded-by-president-obama/) and on my blog (http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.com/2011/11/letting-your-light-shineor-seeking.html), and I noticed it is mentioned in the video (about the 4:12 mark), BUT
The video shows the certificate with Zahng's name on it! Just like Kim Joo-cheol, she is not elligible for the award unless she is a United States citizen! So now they have given themselves 3 awards 'from the President' that they are not elligible for (unless someone can show us that Zahng and Kim are US citizens)?
November 15, 2012 at 10:45 PM #48671
Love'n HoneyParticipantYea, when ahnsahnghong was preaching, mother was only 12. But that’s crazy how zahngs name is on the award when she wasn’t awarded. I wonder how barrack feels about this.
November 16, 2012 at 12:44 AM #48672
prtyeyesParticipantIf her name is on that award, it should be reported as fraud!
November 16, 2012 at 12:48 AM #48673
KFParticipantgenny wrote:
Remember we were wondering how old 'mother' is? I saw in the description of one of the video say they were "commemmorating the 70th year of your [her] coming." So she was born in 1942 and is turning (or turned) 70 years old. That means that she and Ahn are approximately 24 years different in age
1918 Ahnsahnghong born 1942 Zhang born
YEAR AGE YEAR AGE
1948 30 baptised 1948 6
1954 36 notes that there is another to come 1954 12
1967 49 celebrates 1st passover/church 1967 25
1985 67 dies 1985 43 (takes over
or 1987 45 the church)
2012 94 (age today) died 27 yrs ago 2012 70 yrs old
27 yrs in control
are there any other years that should be on this chart and is everything correct?
* no matter how many times i fix her column it looks wrong. It looked fine before hand, then when i posted it came out sort of zigzag, tried 3x's to edit did not work, sorry but you can see its a chart, I just felt the need to do this since Genny found the year she was born.
November 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM #48674
SimonParticipantI believe the book was in 1955 actually
November 16, 2012 at 1:22 AM #48675
KFParticipantok, thank you Simon! the reason I put 1954 (assuming that she is 70 as Genny stated) because my friend said that when Ahnsanhghong spoke of the one to come, mother was 12 yrs old. Then he also compared it to when Jesus was 12, don't know why. Do you know why? also you say the book was written in 1955 I was not aware it was a book, I was under the impression that he wrote about the one to come in his personal notes. If it was a book, what is the name of this book Simon?
November 16, 2012 at 1:55 AM #48676
SimonParticipantit’s alleged to be in a book unsealing the seven thunders but the book isn’t available.because a lot of them were made into chapters of the green book aka mystery of God and the spring of the water of life.
could be a matter of when in the year too.
November 16, 2012 at 6:00 AM #48677
gennyParticipantKim wrote:
ok, thank you Simon! the reason I put 1954 (assuming that she is 70 as Genny stated) because my friend said that when Ahnsanhghong spoke of the one to come, mother was 12 yrs old. Then he also compared it to when Jesus was 12, don't know why. Do you know why? also you say the book was written in 1955 I was not aware it was a book, I was under the impression that he wrote about the one to come in his personal notes. If it was a book, what is the name of this book Simon?
If her birthday is this late in the year, then she would have been 12 for most of 1955, so a 1955 date for the book would work.
November 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM #48678
Cephas' BrotherParticipantHal wrote:
Ummmm.. yeah… no
My thoughts exactly.
I can read and think about this stuff all day long, but I can't bring myself to watch the videos. I know I should, but I feel like I'll break down in tears seeing it. Just lies, right in your face. About GOD of all things! ARGH!
November 18, 2012 at 7:06 PM #48679
KCParticipantits simple modus operandi, there was this preacher that preached around and after years he started a church and the church started to attract more people and when things seems to be going very well, he died.
but some of his followers (or just a certain guy) thinks oh this is just too bad to ends just like this, so with a little imagination and creativity he claim the preacher who died as god, jesus, adam and whoever else that sounded important and then he realise that he need a PR figure, a center piece, a main attraction, so he picked up (probably randomly or who can play along and have talent for acting and morally lacking) a female from the line, saying ok now you supposed to be married with him, ok? so from now on you play mama god, ok?
i think thats how everything started and i believe anh got nothing to do with all of this circus act.
November 19, 2012 at 6:48 AM #48680
SimonParticipantexcept she clearly did have a major role in his church and wasn’t random
doesn’t make her God of course
November 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM #48681
Love'n HoneyParticipantUncle Hal, you’re asking for too much..
November 19, 2012 at 9:38 PM #48682
StainedParticipantKC wrote:
its simple modus operandi, there was this preacher that preached around and after years he started a church and the church started to attract more people and when things seems to be going very well, he died.
but some of his followers (or just a certain guy) thinks oh this is just too bad to ends just like this, so with a little imagination and creativity he claim the preacher who died as god, jesus, adam and whoever else that sounded important and then he realise that he need a PR figure, a center piece, a main attraction, so he picked up (probably randomly or who can play along and have talent for acting and morally lacking) a female from the line, saying ok now you supposed to be married with him, ok? so from now on you play mama god, ok?
i think thats how everything started and i believe anh got nothing to do with all of this circus act.
I think you're right but I'm thinking Miss Soo In made this stuff up because she saw the potential but wanted too big of a cut. So the book was written to make sure no body got in on the action. The idea at that point being laid down. When the old man kicked off somebody said hey lets fly with this again. I am befuddled at how grown up reasonable adults with lives and families can be hoodwinked with such relative ease.
November 20, 2012 at 1:23 AM #48683
SimonParticipantthat conspiracy is too complex
November 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM #48684
KCParticipantthey are not dumb
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