Mothers coming day videos

  • #48668

    Simon
    Participant

    unholy crap the zion the zion I attended branched out of has like 6 more branches now.

    #48669

    genny
    Participant

    Remember we were wondering how old 'mother' is?  I saw in the description of one of the video say they were "commemmorating the 70th year of your [her] coming."  So she was born in 1942 and is turning (or turned) 70 years old.  That means that she and Ahn are approximately 24 years different in age.

    #48670

    genny
    Participant

    I just watched this one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESjVYMlQ5Cc&list=PLDBIaeA3NnvDg4R1eZGeO8l6WIHQfpx6_&index=24&feature=plcp

    The President's Call to Service Award has been written about here (https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/the-wmscog-awarded-by-president-obama/) and on my blog (http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.com/2011/11/letting-your-light-shineor-seeking.html), and I noticed it is mentioned in the video (about the 4:12 mark), BUT

    The video shows the certificate with Zahng's name on it!  Just like Kim Joo-cheol, she is not elligible for the award unless she is a United States citizen!  So now they have given themselves 3 awards 'from the President' that they are not elligible for (unless someone can show us that Zahng and Kim are US citizens)?

    #48671

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Yea, when ahnsahnghong was preaching, mother was only 12. But that’s crazy how zahngs name is on the award when she wasn’t awarded. I wonder how barrack feels about this.

    #48672

    prtyeyes
    Participant

    If her name is on that award, it should be reported as fraud!

    #48673

    KF
    Participant

    genny wrote:

    Remember we were wondering how old 'mother' is?  I saw in the description of one of the video say they were "commemmorating the 70th year of your [her] coming."  So she was born in 1942 and is turning (or turned) 70 years old.  That means that she and Ahn are approximately 24 years different in age

     

     

          1918 Ahnsahnghong born                                     1942 Zhang born

      YEAR    AGE                                                                     YEAR          AGE   

    1948      30     baptised                                           1948            6

    1954      36   notes that there is another to come       1954           12

    1967      49   celebrates 1st passover/church            1967           25

    1985      67    dies                                                  1985           43 (takes over

                                                                           or  1987           45  the church)

    2012     94 (age today) died 27 yrs ago                      2012           70 yrs old

                                                                                                   27 yrs in control

     

    are there any other years that should be on this chart and is everything correct?

    * no matter how many times i fix her column it looks wrong. It looked fine before hand, then when i posted it came out sort of zigzag, tried 3x's to edit did not work, sorry but you can see its a chart, I just felt the need to do this since Genny found the year she was born.

    #48674

    Simon
    Participant

    I believe the book was in 1955 actually

    #48675

    KF
    Participant

     ok, thank you Simon! the reason I put 1954 (assuming that she is 70 as Genny stated) because my friend said that when Ahnsanhghong spoke of the one to come, mother was 12 yrs old.  Then he also compared it to when Jesus was 12, don't know why. Do you know why? also you say the book was written in 1955 I was not aware it was a book, I was under the impression that he wrote about the one to come in his personal notes.  If it was a book, what is the name of this book Simon?

    #48676

    Simon
    Participant

    it’s alleged to be in a book unsealing the seven thunders but the book isn’t available.because a lot of them were made into chapters of the green book aka mystery of God and the spring of the water of life.

    could be a matter of when in the year too.

    #48677

    genny
    Participant

    Kim wrote:

     ok, thank you Simon! the reason I put 1954 (assuming that she is 70 as Genny stated) because my friend said that when Ahnsanhghong spoke of the one to come, mother was 12 yrs old.  Then he also compared it to when Jesus was 12, don't know why. Do you know why? also you say the book was written in 1955 I was not aware it was a book, I was under the impression that he wrote about the one to come in his personal notes.  If it was a book, what is the name of this book Simon?

    If her birthday is this late in the year, then she would have been 12 for most of 1955, so a 1955 date for the book would work.

    #48678

    Cephas' Brother
    Participant

    Hal wrote:

    Ummmm.. yeah… no

    My thoughts exactly. 

    I can read and think about this stuff all day long, but I can't bring myself to watch the videos. I know I should, but I feel like I'll break down in tears seeing it. Just lies, right in your face. About GOD of all things! ARGH!

    #48679

    KC
    Participant

    its simple modus operandi, there was this preacher that preached around and after years he started a church and the church started to attract more people and when things seems to be going very well, he died.

    but some of his followers (or just a certain guy) thinks oh this is just too bad to ends just like this, so with a little imagination and creativity he claim the preacher who died as god, jesus, adam and whoever else that sounded important and then he realise that he need a PR figure, a center piece, a main attraction, so he picked up (probably randomly or who can play along and have talent for acting and morally lacking) a female from the line, saying ok now you supposed to be married with him, ok? so from now on you play mama god, ok?

    i think thats how everything started and i believe anh got nothing to do with all of this circus act.

    #48680

    Simon
    Participant

    except she clearly did have a major role in his church and wasn’t random

    doesn’t make her God of course

    #48681

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Uncle Hal, you’re asking for too much..

    #48682

    Stained
    Participant

    KC wrote:

    its simple modus operandi, there was this preacher that preached around and after years he started a church and the church started to attract more people and when things seems to be going very well, he died.

    but some of his followers (or just a certain guy) thinks oh this is just too bad to ends just like this, so with a little imagination and creativity he claim the preacher who died as god, jesus, adam and whoever else that sounded important and then he realise that he need a PR figure, a center piece, a main attraction, so he picked up (probably randomly or who can play along and have talent for acting and morally lacking) a female from the line, saying ok now you supposed to be married with him, ok? so from now on you play mama god, ok?

    i think thats how everything started and i believe anh got nothing to do with all of this circus act.

     

    I think you're right but I'm thinking Miss Soo In made this stuff up because she saw the potential  but wanted too big of a cut.  So the book was written to make sure no body got in on the action.  The idea at that point being laid down.  When the old man kicked off somebody said hey lets fly with this again.  I am befuddled  at how grown up reasonable adults with lives and families can be hoodwinked with such relative ease. 

    #48683

    Simon
    Participant

    that conspiracy is too complex

    #48684

    KC
    Participant

    they are not dumb

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