[KC]

just finished argueing with a wmscog member, it all started this morning when a friend who is a former member called me and said a girl from wmscog who lived in the same apartment building as him visited him and talked to him about how wrong he is to left the church and after he told him about me, that member said she wanted to talk to me so she can also "enlighten" me about "the truth", so i agreed to meet in starbucks.

so we met and after the standard wmscog MUST SAY and SHOW discussions and bible verses from highlighted bible about the "proof" of mr anh is Jesus, about the raptor from the east and other rehearsed speech, i told her lets just talk about the tithing and mama zhang since thats the reason why this man, my friend leave your church.

just as i expected, after some back and forth conversations about tithes "laws", she started to recite Luke 16 : 19-31 and asked me do i think the bible is not tell that hoarding earthly possesions and money will only leads to hell? i said yap no doubt that the bible says if you are greedy and only care about material thoughts in your life, it will lead you to hell but that dont mean it say that you should give up everything to a self proclaimed god to buy your salvation.

that annoys her i think since then she started to bullshit about how mama zhang live in bad condition in korea where she spend all her time reading letters from her "childrens" to the point she got a sore eyes and cant stop thinkking about her lost sons and daugthers from all around the world.

then i told her, i dont know if she aware about this or not but i personally have watched some of wmscog videos that boast about how big and beautiful that elohim complex in budang is, theres some scenes of mama zhang smilling and showing off some nice buildings where her overseas "childrens" can stay if they visit korea, so you just told me about how Lazarus the poor sit on Abraham lap while the crazy rich would burn in hell begging for a single drop of water?? i think those videos dont show ANYTHING that says mama zhang lived in poor condition or having a hard time and definitely nowhere anywhere near the condition like Lazarus.

then that girl just stormed out from the cafe.

 

[Simon]

[Simon]

Officially even according to the videos she doesn’t live in those buildings

[Emily]

Simon wrote:

Officially even according to the videos she doesn't live in those buildings

So where does she live then?

[Simon]

I don't know the exact location BUT there is a room they show visiting members which they say is hers. BUT I dunno where it is.

[Cephas' Brother]

No way they'd let anyone see where she really lives. Probably quite affluent for the region. 

[Simon]

Maybe maybe not

[KC]

the room where mama god read all the letters in the video? its in budang infact its in their elohim academy complex.

but yes im sure she dont live there, afteral its only for the video time anyways.

[Simon]

Not seen a room in any videos

[KC]

some of the videos i watched shows her reading all the letters with all the drama about her having to read THOUSANDS of letters from her childrens all over the world, then it shows her burning those letters because its all personal secret so she said.

[Simon]

Hmm ok

[Joshua]

What's the point of writing letters to god? Prayer has always been a direct means of communicating with God. Letters? I don't think so.

[Emily]

I was dumb enough to write one when I was there. Can’t remember exactly what it said but I’m sure it was something like thank you for my shot at salvation or something. Now it would say something like thanks for ruining a part of my life and taking someone precious to me away.

I’m sure it was supposed to have been some sign of devotion but I think it was really just a way for the higher ups to know what I was thinking about or having trouble with. I wonder what Zhang does with all of the letters and gifts she receives from her devotees. She can’t even read the ones that aren’t written in Korean anyway. “God” can only read one language lol.

[jellybean]

When they asked me about writting a letter at the beggining I did and I remember the last time I got a little suspicious about me giving my letter to the leader of the church I used to go. Usually they send gifts and letters when the trip to Korea is taking place with all the "brothers and sisters" however the last time I was asked they told me that only the team I belonged to would have the priviledge to send a letter because the leader of my church was going to go on a special trip to Korea not related to the feast or to the main trip they usually make. I made it and everything but it was suspicious because they usually do not have a preference for a specific group or give out priviledges like that. Plus if someone write horrible things to her I bet you they inspect the letters and then send them to Korea. And specially between "sisters" they love us to make letters to know what is going on, what is struggling us, what do we want and what is our ambition in this group because "sisters" thend to speak more to missionaries(female) and diaconesses not to male leaders.

[KC]

emily they pile it up so when its video time, it shows all the letters mama god recieved so it could convience people to think ooooh look theres that many people who believe her too gosh so that means no worry, alright shes god.

even god have to advertise her godliness nowadays you know 🙂

 

[Simon]

They posted her email address in our church.

[Simon]

and the website now has a way to write her a letter (if you are signed in with your Life number and what not)

[Emily]

"God" has an email address?!  Seriously that just sounds stupid.  She doesn't speak English so that means that she doesn't read it either.  Again, we're back to "god" needing a translator. It just doesn't work. 

[Simon]

I’ve never heard she doesn’t speak English idk

[KC]

yea and all the overseas visiting members needs a translator standing by if they are talking to god mama, thats shown alot in the videos, so i think thats a crystal clear clue that she dont speak english

[Simon]

None of the videos I have seen have shown a translator

[fedupmom]

Simon, my son has been to Korea and admitted she did not speak English – his reason was because she is "in human form". Also, when she gave sermons they wore headsets which would translate what she was saying…FYI