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    Simon
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    haha wow

    #44483

    Love'n Honey
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    The story of Adam and Eve is familiar. The serpent deceived Eve and Eve convinced Adam to do something against God's will. A lot of the families gave their Frangrance of Zion saying the wives were sucked in first and the wives convinced the husbands to join as well. History repeating itself. Lol. Just thought that was funny.

    #44482

    Simon
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    genny wrote:

    shimon wrote:

    genny wrote:

    You are correct. 

    YAY!

    I've just had so much Hebrew on the brain, but it is absolutely in Greek.  Now I need to find some one who knows Greek. 🙂

    of course there'd be a caveat lol 🙂

    LOL.  Hey, I said you were correct about the second point, but not the first. 😛

    Go back to the part about us and our…

    I know 🙂 I just couldn't resist.

    #44481

    genny
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    shimon wrote:

    genny wrote:

    You are correct. 

    YAY!

    I've just had so much Hebrew on the brain, but it is absolutely in Greek.  Now I need to find some one who knows Greek. 🙂

    of course there'd be a caveat lol 🙂

    LOL.  Hey, I said you were correct about the second point, but not the first. 😛

    Go back to the part about us and our…

    #44480

    Simon
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    genny wrote:

    You are correct. 

    YAY!

    I've just had so much Hebrew on the brain, but it is absolutely in Greek.  Now I need to find some one who knows Greek. 🙂

    of course there'd be a caveat lol 🙂

    #44479

    genny
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    shimon wrote:

    genny wrote:

    shimon wrote:

    Actually he could seeing as he sees himself and mother as indistinct but if there is numerically one God he could not have said:

    Gen 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likenes

    Gen 11:1-7 "Come, let US go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

    Isa 6:8Whom shall I send? And who will go for US?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!

    Revelation 7:3“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until WE put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

    Yes, He could.  There is an excellent 3-part article about Elohim, scholarly and looking at the linguistics of the Hebrew language.  Here's the second part which address the concern you bring up.  Please read it before continuing to debate this point.

    http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim2.htm

    In case you want to go back to part 1, here's the link: http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim1.htm

    I never posted anything about Elohim so talking about Elohim is irrelevent.

    The us and our is discussed in the article about Elohim.  Will you please read it?  Why does it seem that you don't want to read anything I refer you to?

     

    Further more God is the tree of life but look at the description in revelation:

    Revelation 22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. ON EACH SIDE of the river stood THE tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

    Can one tree be on opposite sides of a river? Of course not!

    That's an interesting point.  I always understood it a mass noun or collective noun, especially since "the" doesn't appear in my interlinear Bible.  Maybe you can clarify this, loocpoc?

    What I am referring to was written in Greek not Hebrew

    You are correct.  I've just had so much Hebrew on the brain, but it is absolutely in Greek.  Now I need to find some one who knows Greek. 🙂

    #44478

    Simon
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    I would argue it is more prophecy related to Ezekiel 47 but yes nice eye.

    #44477

    Simon
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    ed144 wrote:

    That link means nothing. Let us go down and make man in our image. There is still no proof that is a man and woman talking together. How can that even be if the church teaches there is no true gender in heaven?

    what church teaches this?

    when God said the man has now become like one of us it was not referring to are gender male and female, but if fact it is in reference to gaining knowledge between good and evil that when we became like God. Knowing good and evil and are eyes where opened

    The issue is us and our not what the gender of the speaker is.

    #44476

    Simon
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    genny wrote:

    shimon wrote:

    Actually he could seeing as he sees himself and mother as indistinct but if there is numerically one God he could not have said:

    Gen 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likenes

    Gen 11:1-7 "Come, let US go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

    Isa 6:8Whom shall I send? And who will go for US?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!

    Revelation 7:3“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until WE put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

    Yes, He could.  There is an excellent 3-part article about Elohim, scholarly and looking at the linguistics of the Hebrew language.  Here's the second part which address the concern you bring up.  Please read it before continuing to debate this point.

    http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim2.htm

    In case you want to go back to part 1, here's the link: http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim1.htm

    I never posted anything about Elohim so talking about Elohim is irrelevent.

     

    Further more God is the tree of life but look at the description in revelation:

    Revelation 22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. ON EACH SIDE of the river stood THE tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

    Can one tree be on opposite sides of a river? Of course not!

    That's an interesting point.  I always understood it a mass noun or collective noun, especially since "the" doesn't appear in my interlinear Bible.  Maybe you can clarify this, loocpoc?

    What I am referring to was written in Greek not Hebrew

    #44475

    genny
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    loocpoc wrote:

     In Hebrew there is no word "The". Its usually compounded into another word. such as Breshit which means "In The Beginning" with the "Hey" or the "ה ." added into the word.

     

    http://www.jewfaq.org/root.htm 

    Loocpoc, here is the chapter in Hebrew (interlinear): http://interlinearbible.org/revelation/22.htm

    There are some words that are articles ('the'), but I don't see it in front of the word xylon ('tree').  I was wondering if this occurence of 'tree' is a collective noun or mass noun, which has a plural sense even though expressed as a singular word (like 'sand' or 'furniture').

    #44474

    ed144
    Member

    That link means nothing. Let us go down and make man in our image. There is still no proof that is a man and woman talking together. How can that even be if the church teaches there is no true gender in heaven? when God said the man has now become like one of us it was not referring to are gender male and female, but if fact it is in reference to gaining knowledge between good and evil that when we became like God. Knowing good and evil and are eyes where opened

    #44473

    ed144
    Member

    Ok I will go on. 2 fundamental differences between Adam and Eve One Adam is made of "DUST OF THE GROUND" and EVE is form Adam rib For he said " this is now bones of my bones" for she shale be called woman for SHE came out of man. What funny is it cannot be taken in principal more can this be explained by the church any longer for what you perceive as persecution are only questions that have arisen as a result of a question that led to many more that have not be answered within reason. This is but one of many which have been avoided by the church that you cannot answer within reason and common sense. I have even called out the WMSCOG for a public forum and have emailed them many of the concerns of many members who have seen the change in doctrine if you don’t know what they are you have not been a member or are in denial .So please explain and stop living by faith outside of the answers that a church with a solid foundation could answer with the foundation of truth that leads to justice it’s the only way to salvation. It is the very fundamental part of our constitution. It should mean as it is on earth shale it be in heaven then if you must live by it on earth as a law of man the let it be done spiritually to. Truth always has the answer and when it can’t be achieved how can it be said to be true? Why do you keep the constitution for man and not God himself was it not laid down by him for are earthly example and yet you nullify it. I have faith I’m not Shure what you have because it has not been made clear by the church but it is a good example of how the studies go when someone does not hear or agree with the message an excommunication by many means. I know what’s going on. You are inside the box. The one the church tells that all others are in because they don’t hear the church message so fined answers so you can send upright in front of god a claim a solid truth.

    Sorry do you understand Adam was made of dust where there is no human DNA and God put life into his spirit or same as DNA. That is the miracle of his creation when Adam was formed that it why he is like God in his image. Eve was taken from Adams DNA and she was bone of my bones his DNA taken out of man. Mankind can do this very creation of people today are they blowing life into dirt then who still holds the power of creation?

    #44472

    genny
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    shimon wrote:

    Actually he could seeing as he sees himself and mother as indistinct but if there is numerically one God he could not have said:

    Gen 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likenes

    Gen 11:1-7 "Come, let US go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

    Isa 6:8Whom shall I send? And who will go for US?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!

    Revelation 7:3“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until WE put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

    Yes, He could.  There is an excellent 3-part article about Elohim, scholarly and looking at the linguistics of the Hebrew language.  Here's the second part which address the concern you bring up.  Please read it before continuing to debate this point.

    http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim2.htm

    In case you want to go back to part 1, here's the link: http://www.israelofgod.org/elohim1.htm

     

    Further more God is the tree of life but look at the description in revelation:

    Revelation 22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. ON EACH SIDE of the river stood THE tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

    Can one tree be on opposite sides of a river? Of course not!

    That's an interesting point.  I always understood it a mass noun or collective noun, especially since "the" doesn't appear in my interlinear Bible.  Maybe you can clarify this, loocpoc?

    #44471

    ed144
    Member

    Sorry do you understand Adam was made of dust where there is no human DNA and God put life into his spirit or same as DNA. That is the miracle of his creation when Adam was formed that it why he is like God in his image. Eve was taken from Adams DNA and she was bone of my bones his DNA taken out of man. Mankind can do this very creation of people today are they blowing life into dirt then who still holds the power of creation? Then how can it be said they are both in his image when Adam is clearly differant.

    #44470

    ed144
    Member

    trees and rivers come on

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