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Because it's Memorial Day I'd just like to say something about the WMSCOG targeting our military people. I'm not sure why they do that, but they do like to get our guys and girls who are in the military. Could be because they know they have a regular job paid by the govt., or that these are people who know how to follow orders, and the wmscog likes that a lot. Anyway, this group has some inroads in our military and that is kind of concerning. I have heard they have a group on the Nimitz. I have also read where they have some people who are pretty high up in businesses and military offices that are pretty important to our defense. Is anyone else concerned about this? I know of so many of our military guys and girls who have been targeted by these people. It would be hard to believe that their political views and loyalties are not affected by this group.
Remember that our military is full prejudice and bad memories from the war all around the world. They can be very easy target, especially our newly Vets. Lot's of stress and mental illness makes them an easy target.
WMSCOG wants more members with money, power and the ability to influence society. The US military guards the world as we know it and the WMS knows it as well. Imagine the extensive amount of power and influence these people will get if they are able to recruit a couple of high-ranking US Military members.
Picture this: WMSCOG are from South Korea (SK). The branched out to US territory and other countries as well. The US as well as SK are eternal enemies of North Korea. It could be of catastrophic proportion, the damage that could be done by having high-ranking US military allies to join them.
Folks, please understand this: You've hit the nail on the head with two points. 1) Military members are used to taking orders. Sometimes these orders must be taken without question. 2) Gaining these military members (especially higher ranking ones) makes their group seem more legit. Here's what your missing (and it's a huge part) most of the time these military members have moved from somewhere else. Many times they are separated from their family and friends geographically. A certain level of depression would be present in anyone during these times and a desire to connect with people in their new area makes the military member more suseptable to love bombing tactics. Most members of controlling groups were and in many cases are experencing some form of mental illness. We all get this from time to time and it's usually in this state that we start making bad decisions that get up deeper into trouble. No one is imune! The people who get trapped in these controlling groups are not stupid. They are usually very high thinking individuals which helps the group with their goal of seeming legit. Once again I want to say that no one is imune to this. The only thing that will help is knowledge and acceptance ie love.
Joshua wrote:
Folks, please understand this: You've hit the nail on the head with two points. 1) Military members are used to taking orders. Sometimes these orders must be taken without question. 2) Gaining these military members (especially higher ranking ones) makes their group seem more legit. Here's what your missing (and it's a huge part) most of the time these military members have moved from somewhere else. Many times they are separated from their family and friends geographically. A certain level of depression would be present in anyone during these times and a desire to connect with people in their new area makes the military member more suseptable to love bombing tactics. Most members of controlling groups were and in many cases are experencing some form of mental illness. We all get this from time to time and it's usually in this state that we start making bad decisions that get up deeper into trouble. No one is imune! The people who get trapped in these controlling groups are not stupid. They are usually very high thinking individuals which helps the group with their goal of seeming legit. Once again I want to say that no one is imune to this. The only thing that will help is knowledge and acceptance ie love.
Remember "A Few Good Men" – they were just following orders and because they did, someone died. Think for yourself! Do the right thing!
In the northeastern churches a lot of members(more so leaders are former Vets). It’s surprising that these same people who are great heroes and served our country have fallen into this sect, and now salute some Korean woman and pray in the Korean language. Truly bizarre. They preach to military members because they see them having good leadership values and can scare members easily. They give orders now under the day of Kim and Mother, could be some cathartic PTSD also, it’s a topic that is causing heavy concern with people outside of the church who are starting to look into this church
It scares me too, this is a very dangerous group in my opinion. They can let people do whatever the group wants them to. The members think they do things out of free will, no way. I think it is scary that they force themselves to military people and studenst.It is prayerweek again, my spouse is forced to get up at around 4:30 to read the books they force the people to read. But although I got out some time ago, it effects my nightrest also and my mood. It is sick, who ever is still involved, please get out and go live in the real world instead of fairytail world.
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They better be looking long and hard at this because we have some people who are involved in our country's military defenses who are under the control of the wmscog. I think it should be of concern because they will do ANYTHING they think "Mother" wants them to do, no matter who else says differently. I know of a guy who said that when he used to be a member he thought that if he attended Passover, then someone could even have a gun to his head and it couldn't kill him because he was "protected." Now he wonders how he could have ever believed such drivel so completely. But at the time, he believed it fully. Pretty scary implications here. This is a completely fanatic religion we are dealing with.
The spin that they would come up with, after the bullet has passed through his head and not over it, was that he was lacking in faith.
Yup, mama z could have saved him but since he lacked faith god was not pleased with him and took him out. As shown by these verses when the israelites were fighting the cannanites and they failed to win even after they carried the ark of the covenant with them (the ark of the covenant being mama z according to wms explanation) Joshua 7:1-12
Classical, potent, brainwashing techniques at work.
Do not underestimate just how sophisticated these people are.
I think there is a matter of passover confirmaiton bias as well.
If they go out to say Afghanistan and are fired at and they survive Passover protected them and then everyone goes "Amazing!"
If they go to Afghanistan and no battles go near them Passover protected them and kept the enemy away… Amazing!
Yup, you can't drown in the woods.
Passover has been observed by the jews for a long time. How many times was it supposed to protect them from harm?
Wasn't it like… once?
So one woud assume it's more of an isolated occurence, a one time thing, only so the israelites would be lead out of Egypt.
When did the exception turn into a rule??
they have verse to demonstrate it as more than once and they are quasi rational but they don’t make a good argument for their Passover
I sympathize with Mountain Mom's concerns but I don't think you need to worry too much about WMSCOG influence on our military. WMSCOG is not the only cult involved in recruiting military. Also, historically speaking, your argument about "following orders" was the same argument used against Roman Catholics with regards to "orders" from the Pope. That being said, it is clear that WMSCOG, as you pointed out, works hard to recruit young military but I don't think it much different than their working hard to recruit young college kids. They know very well that young people leaving the military, like young people graduating college, are more likely to do well career-wise. That means, of course, more "tithe" and "donation" opportunities!
WMSCOG, like it's big brother the Unification Church, is after financial and political power. The Unification Church, in spite of setbacks, has done very well in that regard. WMSCOG desires the same level of success. Achieving that success requires much more than just a focus on attaining influence in the military.
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