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HI fellow members,
I had been a member of this church for a little bit over a year.This church was introduced to me by my ex girl-friend. But to make the story short this so called true church is letting their female member marry the brother just for sex. There was this sister on the church that was in a relationship with a brother and since the brother was not a believer no more she decided to end their relationship. after a few months after their break up she wanted to get back with him but he said no. A short while after she was texting him to get married with her because she could not hold it no more(sex) but the brother said no that he would not marry her for sex. I found out a week ago that this sister told pastor her problem about wanting to have relations and pastor approved a marriage between her and another brother that was really good friends with the ex of the sister.smh. This church is letting these poor lost young adults get married purely out of desire and not love.
Lol, yes one of the things I've gotten better on since baptism is my mouth. I have the full capability of saying rude & nasty things to & about other people. But, I am practicing using gracious words.
Lol, yes one of the things I've gotten better on since baptism is my mouth. I have the full capability of saying rude & nasty things to & about other people. But, I am practicing using gracious words.
And I stand corrected. I now understand what you meant & how what I said was even more horrid than I thought.
And I stand corrected. I now understand what you meant & how what I said was even more horrid than I thought.
renita.payno wrote:
And I stand corrected. I now understand what you meant & how what I said was even more horrid than I thought.
Yes, but remember our thoughts are easily wicked because we are imperfect and so we don't realise what the implications of our thoughts can be sometimes we need to look at the entire implication to see better. Your thoughts were more horrid from haste than ill will. That is the greatest thing about sin is it is rarely intended in ill will.
renita.payno wrote:
And I stand corrected. I now understand what you meant & how what I said was even more horrid than I thought.
Yes, but remember our thoughts are easily wicked because we are imperfect and so we don't realise what the implications of our thoughts can be sometimes we need to look at the entire implication to see better. Your thoughts were more horrid from haste than ill will. That is the greatest thing about sin is it is rarely intended in ill will.
Which helps me understand more as to why God would forgive me.
Which helps me understand more as to why God would forgive me.
loocpoc wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
shimon:
I am your Sister. Whether in Zion or at home. If we were to marry, I would still be your Sister. You would be kissing your Sister. Having sex with your Sister. Possibly seeing your Sister naked from time to time. Maybe even cuddling with your Sister. The physical goes away because it doesn't matter. We aren't supposed to only think spiritually in Zion but at all times. My physical mother is not my mother. She is a sinner from Heaven who was used by God to bring another sinner to prison. She could very well be my Sister, too, if she were to be baptized.
But why do you say you have no one to marry anyway? Are pushing away the opportunity to find someone to marry outside of Mother possibly making you?
Then you go against G-d's commandment to go forth be fruitful and multiply. The laws against incest were to create a line of human beings free from defect.
She has a daughter. and I have no children so which command should I follow loocpoc?
Do not commit adultery? or be fruitful and multiply?
loocpoc wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
shimon:
I am your Sister. Whether in Zion or at home. If we were to marry, I would still be your Sister. You would be kissing your Sister. Having sex with your Sister. Possibly seeing your Sister naked from time to time. Maybe even cuddling with your Sister. The physical goes away because it doesn't matter. We aren't supposed to only think spiritually in Zion but at all times. My physical mother is not my mother. She is a sinner from Heaven who was used by God to bring another sinner to prison. She could very well be my Sister, too, if she were to be baptized.
But why do you say you have no one to marry anyway? Are pushing away the opportunity to find someone to marry outside of Mother possibly making you?
Then you go against G-d's commandment to go forth be fruitful and multiply. The laws against incest were to create a line of human beings free from defect.
She has a daughter. and I have no children so which command should I follow loocpoc?
Do not commit adultery? or be fruitful and multiply?
That was a law given to Adam & Eve. When God ascended to Heaven, He taught A. Paul concerning this. Paul said it was better for people to be like him, without a wife. But if they could not hold back their desires, rather than sin they ought to marry. Paul said it would be better to stay unmarried. But, if we are unmarried with children such as myself, we are fornicating which is against God's will. So, to stay within God's will while being unmarried, I should remain a virgin until I am married. But, being that we have freedom now, I don't have to get married if I don't want to. So, with this "loop-hole" we have found, we can say every adult virgin is breaking God's command to be fruitful & multiply because they refuse to marry & have sex. That's silly.
That was a law given to Adam & Eve. When God ascended to Heaven, He taught A. Paul concerning this. Paul said it was better for people to be like him, without a wife. But if they could not hold back their desires, rather than sin they ought to marry. Paul said it would be better to stay unmarried. But, if we are unmarried with children such as myself, we are fornicating which is against God's will. So, to stay within God's will while being unmarried, I should remain a virgin until I am married. But, being that we have freedom now, I don't have to get married if I don't want to. So, with this "loop-hole" we have found, we can say every adult virgin is breaking God's command to be fruitful & multiply because they refuse to marry & have sex. That's silly.
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
Permits are more about making money than safety
And did you, just accuse me of tax evasion
Really? Permits are generally a few hundred dollars and that includes several on site inspections. How many church members are licensed AND bonded to actually do construction in the state of NJ?
Im going that you have no job. I never once stated that you did not file taxes. You do not pay taxes. Iam asking would you or this church bear FULL RESPONSIBILITY TO FEED, HOUSE AND CLOTH the immigrants?
Actually, two of the missionaries (Tara and Richard) own Albright Electric, LLC lol.
albrightllc.com
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
Permits are more about making money than safety
And did you, just accuse me of tax evasion
Really? Permits are generally a few hundred dollars and that includes several on site inspections. How many church members are licensed AND bonded to actually do construction in the state of NJ?
Im going that you have no job. I never once stated that you did not file taxes. You do not pay taxes. Iam asking would you or this church bear FULL RESPONSIBILITY TO FEED, HOUSE AND CLOTH the immigrants?
Actually, two of the missionaries (Tara and Richard) own Albright Electric, LLC lol.
albrightllc.com
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
loocpoc wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
shimon:
I am your Sister. Whether in Zion or at home. If we were to marry, I would still be your Sister. You would be kissing your Sister. Having sex with your Sister. Possibly seeing your Sister naked from time to time. Maybe even cuddling with your Sister. The physical goes away because it doesn't matter. We aren't supposed to only think spiritually in Zion but at all times. My physical mother is not my mother. She is a sinner from Heaven who was used by God to bring another sinner to prison. She could very well be my Sister, too, if she were to be baptized.
But why do you say you have no one to marry anyway? Are pushing away the opportunity to find someone to marry outside of Mother possibly making you?
Then you go against G-d's commandment to go forth be fruitful and multiply. The laws against incest were to create a line of human beings free from defect.
She has a daughter. and I have no children so which command should I follow loocpoc?
Do not commit adultery? or be fruitful and multiply?
I think you should follow the commandment to go forth and multiply when you're ready. She is not married. So it is not adultery.
I am sorry but that sentence doesn't make sense. I must have missed a transition. Who is "she" that is not married?
loocpoc wrote:
shimon wrote:
loocpoc wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
shimon:
I am your Sister. Whether in Zion or at home. If we were to marry, I would still be your Sister. You would be kissing your Sister. Having sex with your Sister. Possibly seeing your Sister naked from time to time. Maybe even cuddling with your Sister. The physical goes away because it doesn't matter. We aren't supposed to only think spiritually in Zion but at all times. My physical mother is not my mother. She is a sinner from Heaven who was used by God to bring another sinner to prison. She could very well be my Sister, too, if she were to be baptized.
But why do you say you have no one to marry anyway? Are pushing away the opportunity to find someone to marry outside of Mother possibly making you?
Then you go against G-d's commandment to go forth be fruitful and multiply. The laws against incest were to create a line of human beings free from defect.
She has a daughter. and I have no children so which command should I follow loocpoc?
Do not commit adultery? or be fruitful and multiply?
I think you should follow the commandment to go forth and multiply when you're ready. She is not married. So it is not adultery.
I am sorry but that sentence doesn't make sense. I must have missed a transition. Who is "she" that is not married?
Okay so because she is not married I can have children? she can have children? I don't follow I am sorry.
Okay so because she is not married I can have children? she can have children? I don't follow I am sorry.
okay I think I get you now. Don't avoid it because of spiritual incest but do it when it is legal (Marraige)
okay I think I get you now. Don't avoid it because of spiritual incest but do it when it is legal (Marraige)
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