Many will leave this year from wmscog, so please welcome them without discretion

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  • #7072
    Sarah2013
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    God is the true judge and giver of life. He is a merciful God. We have all sinned and Fallen short. However, He is a merciful God. He is full of wisdom and no lie exist in Him. He is not man/woman like you and I. He is the God of the universe who surpasses human knowledge. For this very reason, we must all(non-Ahn and Zahng worshippers), hold fast to our faith. We are the mouth that speaks when all are silent. one that wanted so dearly to see God. If we cannot love Our brothers whom we have seen, how can we love God whom we sincerely have not seen. I am hurt a bit, but slowly getting over it… And the more I pray, the more he grants me understanding. I am a follower of Jesus Christ even though I have a Jewish background. The question is, do you believe in a true supernatural God……….

    We must welcome those who will be coming out like Joshua said……

  • #51087

    Elievalkyrie
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    Yes, let me share my favorite bible verse for this: "because God's foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God's weakness is stronger than human strength." (1 Cor.1:25). It is for this reason that we can never question or accuse God for the things that happens to us because everything He has made have a purpose. But it is also for the love of God and for others that we should not stop figthing any kind of evil that lurks in this world. Wmscog is just one of the many, worst things will come for us so we must remain steadfast and diligent in seeking the truth among so many lies.

    #51088

    Joshua
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    I read something recently about how we understand God. It's as if we are a bear that is caught in a bear trap. God in the form of a hunter comes around and finds us trapped. We believe that the hunter is going to kill us and can easily do it at any time. We despirately struggle to get away. To free ourselves. The hunter has compassion and decides to free the bear instead of killing it. As the hunter attempts to free the bear the bear only knows that this person will kill it. The bear struggles even harder making it near impossible for the hunter to free it. A bear cannot possibly understand what the hunter is saying to it or the fact that this hunter is trying to be compassionate. One thing that makes the situation even harder is that he has to push the bear further into the trap in order to get the spring in the trap to relax. The bear sees the hunter trying to entrap him further which causes even more anxiety. The hunter finally decides that the bear needs to be drugged in order to calm the bear down so that he can free the bear. The bear sees the hunter load his gun and set his sight on the bear. Of course the bear sees this as he's about to be shot and or killed by this hunter. With a sharp pain the bear becomes incompasitated and falls down helplessly. Expecting that this is how his life is ending he falls asleep. Upon awakening the bear realizes he is free and flees the situation understanding that he should be dead but by some miracle he is still alive. Did the hunter have to do this? How limited is the bears knowledge? Without being able to understand the intent of the hunter will the bear ever be able to truly understand the compassion that was shown to him or even why it was shown? We are like that bear in our understanding of God and God's ways. To us there are situations that we find ourselves caught in and we question why God allows things like this to happen. I know that my loved one being caught in the trap of the WMSCOG was Gods way of showing his compassion towards our family. My loved one was caught and for a time had to be pushed in a little further in order to relieve some of the pressure that the group was inflicting. When my loved one took time away to clear her head and start thinking for herself it was like being drugged and then coming to and realizing that she was free. She ran away from the situation and now realizes how God helped free her from bondage.

    #51089

    longhaul
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    That was a good one Joshua, nice post. There will be all kinds of brothers and sisters who leave or have left.  Deacons, missionaries, pastors, who knows.  But just as I feel, once your mind has gone, you don't feel like going back.  But it does take help to actually get the courage to leave.  That's why we have to help, at the moment they feel like leaving, it all depends on who pulls first, is it on our side or the cogs side, that's the deciding factor.  If we don't give them a tug when they're reaching out, and the cog tugs first they will just stay there and believe what ever they're told.  I don't think there is one person here that has gone in as deep as I was or even as close to the center of it all.  So it did take a lot to stop.  I will do what ever I can to help. If any one is reading this and is having doubts because of 2013 just as I did, them pm me and I will tell you anything you need to know inorder to help you realize.

    #51090

    Rahab
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    Not sure where I should post this, so I thought this thread would be a good place…..

    This has been speaking to me lately….

    2 Timothy 3:16-17  "All scripture is inspired by God and is also useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work."

    4:2-4  "…proclaim the message; be persistent whether the time is favorable or unfaborable; convince, rebuke, and encourage, with the utmost patience in teaching.  For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths.

    1:7  "…for God did not give us a spirit of cowardice, but rather a spiritof power and of love and of self-discipline."

    2:23-26  "Have nothing to do with stupid and senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.  And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to everyone, and apt teacher, patient, correcting opponenets with gentleness.  God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth, and that they may escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will."

    2 Corinthians 4:8-10  "We are afflicte in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be made viible in our bodies."

    5:7  "…for we walk by faith and not by sight."

    5:16-17  "…even though we once knew Christ from a human point of view, we know him no longer in that way.  So if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation:  everything old has passed away; see, everything has become new!"

    Please reflect on these passages.  Let the Lord speak to you.  If you have doubts, please give it to God.  He did not give us a spirit of fear.  If anything is making you afraid, it is not of God.  Condemnation and temptation is not of God.  With Jesus Christ on your side, who can be against you?  All things old have passed away and you are a new creation.  Christianity is a life of faith (the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen). 

    For all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to His purpose.  (Romans 8:28)

    #51091

    genny
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    Thanks, Rahab.  That's a good word. 🙂

    #51092

    Sarah2013
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    Rahab…. Thanks. Good post.

    #51093

    Abhigail Delema
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    Rahab really a good post i hope the wmscog members reading this puts all the verse you have mentioned in to practise,like the lady mentioned inrahul rawail post in mumbai has put false comlaint to police that she was hit not only that she went to the roman catholic for help my point here is where is her patiences,and god has not given us the spirit of cowardice,buy yhe sprit of love and self disipline and we apt to be teachers correcting people with gentleness.But it was just the oppisite .being a missionary she must practise first before daily preaching and talking bad about members of other zions,

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