[Sarah2013]

Matthew 24:4-5. And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.

It’s happening….

[Sarah2013]

[Sarah2013]

emil wrote:

Sarah2013 wrote:

 

There are some scriptures that have lead some christians to believe Elijah/Moses will come as one of the witnesses as in the Left Behind Movie, which I don't quite accept what they depicted. Malachi 4:4-5. Revelation 11. Exodus 7:17-21.

Thanks for those scripture verses. The Malachi one is possible to apply. For Rev, are you referring to the two witnesses? If so then the manner of their death does not match with Ahn. Nor does the duration, whether you interpret the period directly or use the 1 day equals 1 year formula.

As regards Ex 7, it doesn't seem to be the right reference. Couldn't find anything like Elijah in it.

Exodus explains the miracles Moses performed. Moses and Elijah were used in old testament to do miracles God will use them in Revelation. This is what some Christians believe,  which was my reson for bringing up Exodus in relation to the two witnesses. 

[emil]

Simon wrote:

are you up for convoluted wmscog style double think?

Sounds interesting. Shoot.

[emil]

Simon wrote:

In genesis 18 it is definitive he wasn't an apparition and joshua no reason to believe he was

How do you reach that conclusion?

[Simon]

So in genny’s second question she asked about the three and a half.days the witnesses are dead

A day is like a year so 3.5 years where do we see this daniel 7: 25 so from 538-1798 the church trampled on the gospel so the witnesses were”dead and scorned …” But in 1798 they came back to life again as god allowed truth to be restored.

The rest was never explained to me but we already have a problem lol

[Simon]

apparitions cannot eat

[emil]

Simon wrote:

So in genny's second question she asked about the three and a half.days the witnesses are dead

A day is like a year so 3.5 years where do we see this daniel 7: 25 so from 538-1798 the church trampled on the gospel so the witnesses were"dead and scorned …" But in 1798 they came back to life again as god allowed truth to be restored.

The rest was never explained to me but we already have a problem lol

Sorry that doesn't work. They first prophesied for 1260 days. Then they were dead for 3.5 days. So if you use the formula of 1 day equals 1 year then their prophesying has to be for 1260 years and their dead bodies have to lie there for 3.5 years. You have taken the 3.5 days and converted twice from days to years, effectively multiplying the period x365x365. Or is that the convoluted wmscog double-think you were talking about?

That also does not have any explanation about the breath of fire killing opponents. Where did that happen?

[Sarah2013]

Simon wrote:

apparitions cannot eat

Not entirely true in relation to events that occured biblically. 

[Sarah2013]

emil wrote:

Simon wrote:

So in genny's second question she asked about the three and a half.days the witnesses are dead

A day is like a year so 3.5 years where do we see this daniel 7: 25 so from 538-1798 the church trampled on the gospel so the witnesses were"dead and scorned …" But in 1798 they came back to life again as god allowed truth to be restored.

The rest was never explained to me but we already have a problem lol

Sorry that doesn't work. They first prophesied for 1260 days. Then they were dead for 3.5 days. So if you use the formula of 1 day equals 1 year then their prophesying has to be for 1260 years and their dead bodies have to lie there for 3.5 years. You have taken the 3.5 days and converted twice from days to years, effectively multiplying the period x365x365. Or is that the convoluted wmscog double-think you were talking about?

That also does not have any explanation about the breath of fire killing opponents. Where did that happen?

Just watch "Left Behind" and you'll see your two witnesses there. 0_0    

[emil]

^ Do tell me about it.

[Sarah2013]

emil wrote:

^ Do tell me about it.

I was kidding with you when I said that. But on a serious note, they do depict two witnesses I believe one is suppose to be Elijah. I do have my reservations about the movie though. I find it more entertaining than 100 percent accurate. At least they didn't come up with another Jesus.  

[emil]

Yeah I figured that you were kidding. Just asking what it was about.

 

Sarah2013 wrote:

At least they didn't come up with another Jesus.  

In the other thread there was this discussion about "cult" which I didn't much care about. I care that the wmscog says that Ahn and Zahng are gods and ppl believe it.

[Sarah2013]

emil wrote:

Yeah I figured that you were kidding. Just asking what it was about.

 

Sarah2013 wrote:

At least they didn't come up with another Jesus.  

In the other thread there was this discussion about "cult" which I didn't much care about. I care that the wmscog says that Ahn and Zahng are gods and ppl believe it.

I understand. That's also the reason, I'm not as patient in debating dates, feasts, fulfillment of prophecys by Ahang and a few other topics. They are not god of the unviverse as far as I know. If they are, then I missed that Bible entirely and using the wrong Bible. 

[Sarah2013]

Need I say more. 0_0

[Simon]

Yeah the double think. Lol

[Simon]

And can you explain where an apparitions have eaten in scripture

[Love'n Honey]

I think I'm misunderstanding the point of this site.. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the point of other people coming to this site. What is the purpose? How is this purpose being worked out?

[Sarah2013]

It’s intended for exactly what everyone contributes. As far as Ahang and Zhang goes remember feelings differ, so what one person might want to delve into to better prove their point, the other might not be so intrigued. Doesn’t mean the topic is irrelevant at all. What everyone contributes is superb. 🙂

[Sarah2013]

Simon wrote:

And can you explain where an apparitions have eaten in scripture

Genesis 19:3

First, Let's define apparition: " Anything that appears unexpectedly or in an extraordinary

way;... " Webster's New World Dictionary, Third edition.

The word "Apparitions" cannot be found in the Bible but, as we

can see from the definition, there were "apparitions"that took

place in the Scriptures:



1.	Appearance of the star at Jesus' birth. Matthew 2:7

2.	Appearance of angels. Luke 1:11

3.	Appearance of Moses and Elias in the transfiguration.

Matthew 17:3

4.	Appearance of Jesus after His death. Mark 16:12,14;

1 Corinthians 15:8

5.	Appearance of cloven tongues on apostles. Acts 2:3.

As we can see, apparitions of the Bible were miraculous.

The question now would be were they apparitions or not? 

[Love'n Honey]

People here say some things that come across as proving this or that is irrelevant to disproving ASH & Zahng being God..

[Sarah2013]

🙂