[Jubilee]

We all know it is the Passover today, in Los Angeles area they are having it at the Pasadena Civic Center. 

Anyone interested in protesting with us please come join us.   Many members will be there and we can send a good

message to everyone.   Remember, they admitted being a cult. 

[fedupmom]

[fedupmom]

I would if I was in your country… I am wondering though, what time do they have service(s) on Passover day?

I wasn’t aware they admitted they were a cult…when did this happen?

[Liberty]

Yeah, I didn't think they had admitted to being a cult either. I would go if I was still in Southern California. Jubilee, let us know how it goes.

[Jubilee]

In the beginning of Feb.  this organization presented to all their churches with a video to discredit Ron, Diane and Steve Hassen.

More damage control.  But, we know they are buring themselves.

They took the BITE model of a cult & demenstrated through the Bible that the BITE model is in the Bible.  Proving that many of the characteristics of a cult is true.  Step by step they showed verses to justify themselves.   Information control was the one that threw me for a loop!  They admitted they deliberately withhold information and use deception with their members by using God's word like Heb. 5:11-14  You are so slow to learn, you need milk………

Behavior Control

2Thes 3:14

Information Control

Heb 5:11-14

Thought Control

1 John 5:19

Emotional Control

Romans 7:24

Information Control

1. Use of deception

a. Deliberately holding back information

b. Distorting information to make it acceptable

c. Outright lying

They use Hebrews 5:11-14,  so if the members were paying attention, they would know for sure, the WMSCOG admitted they have the characteristics of a cult, comparing themselves to Jesus 2000 years ago.  The only thing they forgot is that Jesus Christ who is God never lies!!!!

They also lied about bearing fruit or ten talents to go to heaven.  They say they never taught that!!!  Then at the end they bring all those memebers that were saying to themselves, "what is this all about?" with more scriptures to bring them back to fear and guilt.

SHAME, SHAME on them for abusing God's words to justify their sins!!!

[fedupmom]

Jubilee, please share with us, how did the protest go?

[Jesus of Nazareth]

@ Jubilee > I can feel your blood pressure.  That's the kind of passion we need here.  God see's them Jubilee, don't worry about that.  They don't believe in God but they have one.  We know what that is.

[MountainMom]

Jubilee, if I was there I would have gone.  If there are organized protests and I heard of them ahead of time, I would try to be there if there was any way.  If anyone is organizing something, please share it on here or PM me, and I will see what I can do.  I  am a long way away from most people on this forum I think, so I would need a little heads up. 

Please share how it went if you can!  Thanks.

[MountainMom]

By the way, I talked with a newspaper columnist who said their paper wouldn't investigate the church as such because they were limited on manpower for that, but would definitely cover a picketing, protest, etc.  I think legal, appropriately done picketing is really a good method we can use.  I also think opinion columns and guest writer columns might be venues we could use. 

[Questioninginla]

If you have a group that has grown even though it has provided failed prophecies in its past, what makes anyone here think that the intellect and behaviors of today's members is going to be any different from that of past members?

Lately I have seen a fair amount of secondary research in which various groups are controlling the definition of "cult" and thereby embracing and retarding the affects of information about "cults".  In the minds of the members, they have already been informed about "cults".

Thanks to Jubilee for posting the verses relative to BITE, above.  It comes as no surprise to me that a group with history of developing hypotheses and finding verses to fit has now done the same with BITE.  Does it surprise anyone else?  It shouldn't.

I would rather see, if applicable:

Inform people how phobias kept you in the group

Inform people how fragrance/confession kept you in the group

Inform people how conformity kept you from seeeing that it wasn't your decision to adapt – it was group pressure

Inform people that pictures and posters in many common areas has a subtle but effective effect psychologically

Inform people that obedience to authority is very hard to break out of.

[Jubilee]

I would like to share with all of you that I am well aware that the "general assembly" in S. Korea is well aware of who I am.   So, with this said, I would like you to know that the way they get people to stay in "Zion" is by your love and faith of God!!  Vunerable people all over the world who are searching for God/Christ are being recruited into this organization.  Many people who know the Bible or don't know the Bible are searching for answers to many questions.  Like, "what is the meaning of life?"  or "if there is a God, then why are people suffering or dying?, why me?, ect……, one day a beautiful person with a big smile on their face approaches you and says, "GOD BLESS YOU!!!"  Then they proceed to tell you all about God and how they can answer all your questions through the Bible.  "now is the time", they say.

 

Once you make the commitment to God your in, and you hear yourself saying, "This is the TRUTH, & there is no going back, I am pressing forward to win the prise!"  Heaven bound!!!! 

Your Faith, your most sacred place in your soul and heart are now in their hands, because they say "your heavenly mother is here to bring you home to heaven!!"  

This is why they, the WMSCOG & all their other "names" are stealing our FAITH from all of us!!!

[Sarah2013]

Thank you, J. You couldn’t have said it any better. Our weakness and vulnerability is how they get most of us; I said this in another thread. Glad someone like you, especially, affirms.

[Jubilee]

We must always remember, Most of those poor people that are trapped inside by their faith are only focussing on being one of the 144,000!

Many will be so happy on that day when they are united with their Father & Mother, and if you did good, mostly OBEDIENCE to your leaders, then you have an excellent chance of being one of the 144,000.  The 144,000 are the Heavenly children who will inherit many galaxies, and stars with everlasting happiness.  They place sublimanel messages in your heart and soul through dramatized video's.  Mother's Sacrifice part 1 shows what happened in heaven and why we are here on this earth as the fallen angels.   part 2 shows mother looking for us on this earth and being tormented by satan.   part 3 shows us entering heaven and recieving our rewards for our obedience and bearing "much" fruit (as the actress puts it)   wow it is all an act.  

We will all be surprised one day when we leave this earth including Zahng Gil Jah and her entourage!

[Sarah2013]

And that, J, is my biggest fear.

[Jubilee]

Regarding picketing and protesting, it is the BEST thing to do in your area.  We, Los Angeles area, that is the Reseda zion, have been doing this for the past month.  

The first Saturday after 1st service we spent 3 hours trying to get their attention.  It worked the pastor moved them all into the santuary.

They ended up putting a fence around the church so you could not see in or out!  Those poor people are trapped like rats, no way in or out except through the front doors.

So, the next saturday we showed up before 1st service to greet them while they were parking their cars. Some of us almost got hit or ran over.  They immediately came out with their video camers on the roof tops.  Every time we show up we are on their video and ours. They also called the police the first time, and again the following week but they don't come anymore.  (hahaha)

So far we know it is making a huge difference.  We talk to them as they enter the church and tell them things like, "ASH wrote 25 books, why do you only have 7?"  or ASH has 4 children.  If he wanted to show it is okay to have children (thats what they say to explain why he had them) then why didn't he have only 1 child, and why does the church permit woman to have abortions?

Say anything that they don't know and they don't know that much.  So, you want to spark their interest.  We try to hand them our flyers and show them the uncondional love of God. 

Some listen, some don't, some laugh, some cry, some like a Deaconess gives us the middle finger and other just swear at us saying, " get the _ _ c k out of here. 

It's been interesting and mostly emotionally draining for us.  I always end up crying.  Anyway.  we heard that about 40% of the members are really confused.  That's why we are supposely fulfilling prophecy.  But, on the other hand, it most likely will take only one more thing like that video to wake them up from their time of slumber!!!!  Amen!?

So get out there and show them the TRUE love of Christ!!

[Jubilee]

Sarah2013, don't worry, I can assure you, God loves you and he set you free.   

[Jubilee]

Oh ya, I forgot to tell you.  Not one Korean member comes outside to supervise us.  It is all the Americans even the illegal ones don't come outside anymore.  

The funny thing is their own Shepherd of the flock is never no where to be seen,  he has now hired an off duty police man to watch over us.

This way the other guards can go into service on time.  The first couple of weeks they were late to service.

We only have 8 to 10 people but that is enough.  Yesterday there was only my husband, son and I.   We have the power of God on our side!!!

[Sarah2013]

Thanks! I have to give it to you! The real deal is what you are. Also, point noted on somethings you’ve said.

[Love'n Honey]

I want to protest!! =(

[Liberty]

They lied about the Ten Talents!!!!! Oh I am so mad about that!! I spent so much grief, shed so many tears, wasted so many precious hours of my life over that 10 talents things!

 

So are they now telling people that they don't need ten talents to go to Heaven?

 

And wow, I didn't know that Deaconness could be so mean. I guess her perky smile is just fakeness.

 

A member of Reseda Zion texted me information about the Passover yesterday. I have no idea who it is though, because I didn't have their number saved. Obviously, they still have mine though.

[Sarah2013]

She just doesn’t know better yet. She might come out. Always the ones you don’t expect to. Some people sell out to whatever they believe until God maybe decides to have mercy on them and open their eyes. She might come out.

[Love'n Honey]

What do you mean they lied about the 10 talents?