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Hi my name's mat and a couple months ago my girlfriend was going through tought times with her job (feeling of being unappreciated) and ended up quiting, the night she made the decision of quiting a member came up to her and convinced her to join the church.
First I thought it was just another church and I went there one "sabbath" day i did about 6 studies and was starting to believe a little, even though i had doubts after every study. I hardly trust things right in front of me , I couldn't just trust someone who was trying to flip my views on religion. I did some research online and found this site,I watched many videos, read some of the evidence and even bought steve hassan's book, I was convinced this church was fake so I tried to show my girlfriend one of the videos. as soon as i pressed play she shut the screen off and we had one of the hugest arguements of our relationship. This was about a month ago, now i'm at the point where I dont know what to do, i showed her scriptures that should of created doubt in her head because she wont listen to me about anything unless it's in the bible, but even when i show her what's in the bible she takes it the way the poeple at her church tell her to understand and that causes more arguements. We been living together for 2 months now, fighting for a month, and now im moving out on the 31st, i'm afraid when i leave she'll become more involved with the church. I cant let her go because I know its not her fault, No normal person would ever put up with all this, we been talkin for about a year and i'm not willing to throw everything away because of this church.
She's a very combative person and every talk turns into an arguement soon enough when the church is brought up, she doesn't believe anything unless you show it to her right in your face.
I dont know what to do, help please
@Smurf – Not everybody gets the humor ๐Heck, I don't even get it sometimes. ๐
But back to the topic. As soon as the coming passover passes (no pun intended), seeing as this is the top reason for ppl to go there, it will be a lot easier to get someone out.
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Heck, I don't even get it sometimes. ๐
But back to the topic. As soon as the coming passover passes (no pun intended), seeing as this is the top reason for ppl to go there, it will be a lot easier to get someone out.
what makes you think it will be easier to get them out? I thought the passover was a major indoctrination period focused on strenghthening their faith therefore making it harder to get someone out.
One thing that strikes me as odd is that there were a lot of people who didn't go to services all year long, i think alot of people, or very seldom but will make a point to attend passover. Isn't that strange? I questioned that but I don't think I ever got an answer. Does anybody know what that's all about?
Oh and could you explain that joke cause I didn't get it and it's making me crazy
@ Daluca Mathew: I have been away for a few days, so I apologize for not answering anything here. First of all, Mat, I don't think it is a good idea to lie to anyone, because you don't want to appear as dishonest as the wmscog. And then there is the stress of trying to live a lie as well. You don't have to lie to her or the other wmscog members at all. You can keep the lines of communication open without that. If you want to go to the church and be civil, although unconvinced, that is fine but don't argue openly with her or the members, and do not be caught in any kind of lie. It shouldn't be hard to be nice to the members because most of them will be nice to you, even if it is insincere. And follow Joshua and Sally's advice. It's good stuff.
You came here asking for help from people who have been associated with the cult for a long time, either as an ex-member or someone who has a loved one trapped in there. We know what we are talking about. I admire your passion for getting your girl out, but you need to listen to the people whom you have asked for help. Patience is important. Honesty (and tactfullnesss) are important too.
@Daluca Mathew – I hope that isn't anything like your real name. If it is, then you've already lost a lot of ground in the war.
Suggestion for the guy… Just tell your girl to notice small "funny" things the church would demands Her to do, Albeit I admit… That would probably be rather hard for your girl… specially if she is still in the love bombed stage.
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