- April 29, 2013 at 1:59 AM#7274
WMSCOG boasts of keeping all of the appointed times… But there is one I cannot find any way they keep
Numbers 28:11 “‘On the first of every month, present to the Lord a burnt offering of two young bulls, one ram and seven male lambs a year old, all without defect…."
So every appointed time of sacrifice is kept as an appointed time in WMSCOG except at least one of them The New Moon appointed time of sacrifice…
How can they be the true church because keep every appoited time yet keep them in the wrong months and not even attempt all of them and inventing another (third day)
- April 29, 2013 at 2:31 AM #59166
I believe the answer I was given about that was that there is no record of Jesus keeping the new moon so we didn’t have to keep it. You know they just make up a lot as they goApril 29, 2013 at 2:38 AM #59167
There is no record of him keeping the feast of trumpets 🙂April 29, 2013 at 2:51 AM #59168
He was a Jew…if he kept one feast he kept them all (wmscog response)April 29, 2013 at 2:55 AM #59169
He was a Jew…if he kept one feast he kept them all (wmscog response)
Then He would have also kept new moons and Purim too. And there is a record of Him keeping Hanukkah, but the WMSCOG doesn't keep that.
Simon, I asked about new moons too and the answer I got left me with the impression they didn't think new moons were significant enough to need keeping. I'd like to hear from FTOS about this.April 29, 2013 at 2:57 AM #59170
Purim & Hanukkah don’t belong to the Law of Moses according to wmscog, which is why they justify not keeping themApril 29, 2013 at 3:01 AM #59171
New Moons are Torah commands Purim and Chanukah are man made traditionApril 29, 2013 at 3:02 AM #59172
Purim & Hanukkah don't belong to the Law of Moses according to wmscog, which is why they justify not keeping them
But don't they want to follow what Jesus did? And He did keep Hanukkah.April 29, 2013 at 3:06 AM #59173
@Genny…they make it up as they go. After they read these posts they will go back &explain to the members why they don’t keep feasts or give extra explanation about what Jesus did keep based on reading between the linesApril 29, 2013 at 3:07 AM #59174April 29, 2013 at 3:08 AM #59175
Hey, at least it's mentioned. And they assume He kept other feasts that are not even mentioned.April 29, 2013 at 3:14 AM #59176
Major difference is Jesus actually spoke against man made traditions and for the law of GodApril 29, 2013 at 4:05 AM #59177
Jesus spoke against treating man made traditions as if they were the law of God, didn't He?
If the wmscog were against all mad made traditions, they wouldn't celebrate birthdays, mothers day or fathers day, New Years on Jan. 1, men and women separated in church (I don't recall that as a command), red and blue candles at "Father's" wedding ceremony, etc.
But new moons are mentioned in God's law, so I don't see why they wouldn't keep those.April 29, 2013 at 4:47 AM #59178
Chanukah as a religious holiday would be quite different from mothers dayApril 29, 2013 at 4:56 AM #59179
What about circumcision Simon? Would that be God's law? The wmscog member I know does not know what circumcision is.
I think much is made of Jesus saying that he has not come to abolish the law but fulfill it. I believe what he meant was that he was the fulfillment of the law. It has been accomplished. We need to distinguish between moral laws and ceremonial laws.
Sorry I hope I'm not derailing this thread. Genny, if I am, please delete this post.April 29, 2013 at 4:57 AM #59180
Although one might say since pope gregory set new years to january 1 they shouldn’t keep new yearsApril 29, 2013 at 4:59 AM #59181
baptism=circumcisionApril 29, 2013 at 5:08 AM #59182
Although one might say since pope gregory set new years to january 1 they shouldn't keep new years
I am genuinely confused about which is the so-called sacred calendar and who keeps it faithfully.
I believe that Jesus took all moral law and combined it into the two commandments of loving God and neighbour.
It has been argued that baptism itself has pagan origin. Wonder what the wmscog has to say about it.April 29, 2013 at 5:11 AM #59183
Baptism is jewish origin in many waysApril 29, 2013 at 5:52 AM #59184
Wmscog would say about baptism….if Jesus was baptized, we too should be baptized to follow the example he set. Now how they baptize comes into question because they say you must be baptized in all 3 names…one of which we know is a false god.April 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM #59185
Good point Disturbed, but Jesus was circumcised too.
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