Just a transient thought….

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  • #8069
    Brian Taylor
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    Lately I’ve been Reading a lot about the stock market and how seemingly unrelated variables can have very direct effects on the price of stocks and the market overall. And it got me thinking,….since the WMS is, in a way, a business do these same controls and factors apply?….

    For instance, when I was first baptized it was 2009 and the U.S. was recovering from a huge recession, on top of that, the country was still in the thick of the Iraq war. A lot of people felt hopeless(myself included) so, perhaps at that time, an apocalyptic message of salvation would have been more potent. But now with the combination the WMS receiving more critical attention and a more sober collective view of the world could this possibly be contributing to members slipping through their fingers? I dunno, maybe I’m off in left field. But I would do anything get my hands on actual statistics regarding recruitment, by age, year and all the relevant correlations.

  • #72973

    WarriorQueen
    Participant

    Me too!!! My husband claims so many people are still coming in.. But I hear they are losing a lot of people too! He claims certain numbers all the time.. But how true are these numbers they claim? And how many actually remain!?

    #72974

    Selena
    Participant

    They tend to do that. When they have short term preaching they get a lot of baptisms but most of them don’t stay. When I was there sometimes my location would get about 50 baptisms but after a week only one person stayed.

    #72975

    UntouchableJ
    Participant

    WMS is always at a sort of, “Zero birth rate”. Its not about getting/making members, its about first getting to a level where they will return. They are always telling members about other members’ preaching accomplishments. We were told of a Deacon in India (Brian, you may remember this story), who got 1,000$ people baptised in a year. When we had a feast goal for baptisms, we were always told of another branch churchs accomplishments. “Ohn..bredder, you hear? NY Zion got 2,000 baptisms!”I never felt those goals were realistic. Im very certain that numbers have gone down. But I think now, their “Cult research center” is learning that they will get more “flies with honey”. The rigidness, from what I see, has scaled back. When I was there, we seemed to be always beating the air about being oppressed. It seems over the last year they try to make it seem as if, “we are just like you.” Since my wife, kids and I were well liked..Im sure alot of damage control was done to prevent others from seeking us out. Thats just personnaly why I feel they lose members.

    1.New converts must now, be quickly pushed to a stage of being “sold out”.

    2. Members must be shielded from exmember testimonies as they come in.

    3. WMS has to keep ironing out wrinkles in their doctrine, and practices.

    #72976

    Mayor and Mike
    Participant

    That sounds right Untouchable.

    Similar to what you have said, the cog focuses on these 3 things:

    1. Mind control

    2. Mind control

    3. Mind control

    #72977

    Brian Taylor
    Participant

    @UTJ I do remember hearing a lot of ” missionary so-in-so in [insert country] bore 100,000,000 fruit!”

    But I suspect that the numbers they put out in their propaganda videos are hugely inflated because I remember at the last Passover I kept in the WMS, they counted members who no longer attended in the registrar.

    On top of that, they included a bunch of non existent services in their tax statements so why wouldn’t they inflate numbers.

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