"Joshua's Movement?" I am once again anoid with the WMS!

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  • #7423
    Joshua
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    I recently read in another post, I haven't had the time to verify it yet, that the WMSCOG has been promoting a group inside of their group. The elite of the chosen ones I guess. They are promoting this group that they have titled, "Joshua's Movement." Now I'm sure that this is a little arrogant of me but when God told me that He wanted me to be His Joshua in reguard to destructive controlling groups like the WMSCOG and lead His children out I was both apprehensive (scared) and honored. Although I feel that there are probably people out there that could do a much better job at this than I could I am a willing vessel. For this cult to take and abuse the scriptures the way they do, to take advantage of the nature of Gods children as they have, and to now take my God given name to further their abuse has (for lack of a better term) pissed me off! This group inside of the group is tasked with approaching and if possible setting appointments with five people a day. Of course this kind of preaching has been stolen from other groups who have proven that there can be a measure of success by using these kind of tactics. Business and advertising also prove that if you put something in front of people enough times they will begin to think that whatever it is must be useful or needed. What's more, if you can start a "Buzz" about it then your product or service could become very successful in a very short amount of time. This better explains why the WMSCOG (It's not called this in Korea by the way!) has grown as quick as it has and also why it is dying out as quick as it is. Yes, it seem that their numbers are going down! The newness and fresh approach is fading away just like the "Pet Rock" fad. This is why once again there is a push to get more people in! What happened to the whole last year is the end of preaching thing anyway? I thought that the temple was complete again! (Yes, I said again.) Everyone of the 144,000 were supposedly found and that was that. I guess that they never expected to have to keep this crock of bull going this long! This is one of the reasons why some of us are keeping a keen eye out to try and avoid the mass suicide senerio. They don't believe in this kind of thing right now but what if Zahng told them that they need to go into their spiritual form in order to accompany her to Heaven? Suddenly not that far of a strech is it? My appointment is to lead the children of God out of bondage and into the promised land. When Joshua left Moses and lead the children of Isreal into the promised land all of the people had their own mind and their own decisions to make. Folks, the laws of God are written in our hearts! There are things that we do and things that we don't do because we already know that some things are right and some things are wrong. Do you really need to be taught a new way of doing things? A new set of rules? The Bible teaches us that iron sharpens iron. We are to hold each other to the standards that God has already placed in us! My iron should not dominate over yours or vice versa. Jesus is the head of the church and we are to strive to be like Him! As men we are to lead our families as Jesus leads us. As men we are to love our wives as Jesus loves his church. This alone should prove to anyone that the WMSCOG is a false church! How many times have we heard of divorce being encouraged? This group has Love? Where? The love of self is no kind of love! They're going to lose!

    Have I brought you truth? Am I stepping up and being the Joshua God called me to be? Have I brought you into slavery (controlling and manipulating group) or have I encouraged you into freedom (a life with Jesus Christ and an ability to think for yourself) and the promised land (Heaven)? This is what Joshua is called to do and those that solder in this cause with me do not count numbers of people talked to in a day but praise God for every lost soul that comes to know Him for the True God He is! WMSCOG your days of manipulation and deception are numbered!

    Last bit of truth for now; I believe it was Emil that brought up a GREAT question/comment: How can you believe Ahn/Sahng are gods and then take the body and blood of Jesus who said that there is only One True God? WMSCOG your doctrine and teachings are being tested and they are failing!

  • #63586

    Emily
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    First it was the "10 talents movement" and now it's the "Joshua movement"?!  What is that the REMIX?!  LOL.  

    I heard that the 144,000 were already gathered, Zgj is just waiting for them to "change", whatever that means.  

    Gotta give em credit for creativity and just making it up as they go along.  (sarcasm)

    #63587

    emil
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    I have said it before and I'll say it again. Their strategy is pure marketing. I once attended a distributor meet of AMWAY. The WMSCOG uses much the same approach. Only the product is somewhat intangible. In other words, the WMSCOG is like AMWAY in strategy but their product is comparable to the Emperor's new clothes.

    #63588

    Simon
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    The but made me think you were going to describe a distinction 😉

    #63589

    God my love
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    #63590

    God my love
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    In this forum attachment service must be if some one want to add a photographs then it could be better.

    #63591

    emil
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    Simon wrote:

    The but made me think you were going to describe a distinction 😉

    Were you talking of my post? If so, the but was a distinction. The Amway product is tangible and probably works as advertised. The WMSCOG is selling a ephemeral, non-existent product and like the Emperor's new clothes, members are supposed to go "ooo" and "aaah" about it.

    #63592

    Simon
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    Amway is a bit of a ponzi scheme lol

    #63593

    Stained
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    If nothing else with AMWAY, you get a tangible product that is worth the Money.  If you're trying to set yourself up as a pyramid company selling the stuff it's like anything else; you work hard at it and you're a people person, you can stack up bank.  You gotta have the time and personality.  Most of us can't do it because of the phoneyness factor that it requires and most of us have the built in decency  to not want to annoy others or force things upon them.  Stained is considering donating one of his All Powerful, All Knowing, All Seeing "movements" for our friends to marvel at.  He must first consume a Wendy's Triple Stacker, Large Fries and Triple Thick Shake before a final decision can be made.  Only the high counsel (Stained, High Priest Harry, Jesus of Nazareth, Tyler and the Holy Michele) can authorize such an honor.   I'm calling an emergency meeting right now.  Priority Code Alpha Red. 

    #63594

    Simon
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    Joshua once told me that amway qualifies as a cult, he'd need to explain it though

    #63595

    Joshua
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    I think I said that Amway has cult like characteristics. Things like they are very excited about themselves. They have charismatic leaders. If you are not succeeding it's because you are not trying hard enough not because there is anything wrong with them. Only a few at the upper end really seem to be benefiting from the labor of many. I'm sure that these traits can be seen by many people outside of the Amway group but when you are in the group it seems much different. No offence meant to the folks trying to make Amway pay off for them. Once in a while someone does make some money at it.

    #63596

    emil
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    Simon wrote:

    Amway is a bit of a ponzi scheme lol

    I totally agree Simon. That is what I was saying. In that respect the WMSCOG and AMWAY are similar. But they differ in that AMWAY has tangible products which are beneficial in and of themselves. WMSCOG is selling the emperor's new clothes.

    AMWAY has cult like characteristics. They have group motivation and veiled group insults for poor performance too.

    As with any pyramid scheme, the guys near the top, gain from getting more people at the bottom. Most people at the bottom end up losers unless they have what it takes as Stained mentioned. WMSCOG is no different except that they are selling thin air.

    #63597

    Simon
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    Well they also have books and cds haha

    #63598

    emil
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    ^ Which are sales tools.

    #63599

    Simon
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    Actually they are products

    #63600

    MountainMom
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    Are the books and CD's given to the members or are they charged for them?  I have a few of their books, but came by them through a member.

    #63601

    Stained
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    MountainMom wrote:

    Are the books and CD's given to the members or are they charged for them?  I have a few of their books, but came by them through a member.

    $$Ka-Ching$$ and when they change the version of the book (because something they said would happen didn't happen) they want the old ones back and charge YOU again. $$Ka-Ching$$.  See the Home-Page of this site to observe the changes in the "Green Book" for a prime example.

    #63602

    God my love
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    Mountain Mon yes they sell all the cd's and books. Every month they sell Elohim too this is a business.

    #63603

    Simon
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    They never asked for older versions back here we were openly reading different editions of the books and I annoyed the deacon with asking about every single discrepency =]

    #63604

    God my love
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    Every year new songs, sermon books, ASH book is published is new edition. So members are requested to buy new books and return old one.

    #63605

    Simon
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    Where is this

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