Jesus Only Had To Die Once…

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  • #7161
    Sarah2013
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    Everything we need to know is in the Bible. Jesus knew about the new world order, the coming of age religion and so on. He made it clear that in the last days many false prophets will arise. I am neither republican nor democrat but one who seeks truth. We are certainly in the last days and now we are lured into the very beliefs Jesus warned us against. The more it becomes a challenge, the more we ought to know that Jesus’ prophesy is coming to past. It is just the beginning. If you are a follower of Jesus Christ, please focus on him and nothing else here. No need to point out the good in evil because such does not exist. No false prophet means well. Believe me, they know exactly what they are doing. Stand firm on what you believe. Don’t waver.

    Though a unique individual, God referenced job in the Bible for our benefit. I have many regrets in life, but I have come to understand that the being we call God is no match for any human being or angels, good or bad. If we believe he created the universe, then we must believe He is no match for man.

    We cannot continue to crucify him over and over with our new age beliefs. We either love Jesus and believe he is the messiah or we don’t. Not all will accept him and not all who say Lord, lord, belong to him. I was deceived by the devil into believing the name of Jesus was obsolete but as a child of God, he had mercy on me, granting me a second chance, of which, I will not stump on.

    We need to wake up. A lot is happening around us. Planet earth as we know it is changing. We are in a great spiritual battle and it is creeping up into the physical realm where we are.

    I was prosecuted because I didn’t vote for the same race as me, though i didn’t vote for mitt either, but I tell you the truth, all that glitters is not gold. Wake up brothers and sisters, the evil one is liar and a thief. You are worth so much more than gold to God.

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    Simon
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    baptism anoints you prophethood in WMSCOG

    #55170

    Love'n Honey
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    Some people believe Jesus has great authority and has made them prophets. Some believe Rolland has great authority and has made them prophets. According to your doctrine they are false. According to their doctrine you're false. But what is the doctrine?

    #55171

    Sarah2013
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    Once again, that is their teaching. Remember, I am 100% a follower of Jesus Christ. I only take what He taught not what Wmscog wants me to believe.

    #55172

    Simon
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    then by your logic false prophets do not exist

    #55173

    Love'n Honey
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    I thought the bible just said a prophet was someone who preached.

    #55174

    Sarah2013
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    The doctrine of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The only true saviour of the World. People have to be taught first in order to teach. The person teaching is the originator. Why is this hard to see? Wmscog’s teachings are not coming from its members but from its leaders. Jim jones lead hundreds of people astray because he was the leader. The bible says…..

    1 Corinthians 12:29

    James 3:1

    So how can Zhang say they are all prophets?

    #55175

    Love'n Honey
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    Because they learned from Her. I met a Christian "prophet". How was he taught by Jesus? He's gone.. Zhang is here. She taught them and dubbed them prophets.

    #55176

    Simon
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    That’s why they are false prophets

    #55177

    Sarah2013
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    Simon, you are going in circles. This really isn’t a belly full debate. It is crystal clear. The original point to this is lost and pointless at this stance.

    A false preacher knows he is false. Those under him are followers of a false prophet who believes the false teaching. However, the minute they know what they are teaching is false and continue to do so, then they are false teachers or preachers. This is why people like Ron who taught many people is making sure to correct those false teachings. We are still accountable for our sin, because we are suppose to pray for wisdom and study our bibles. God cannot be mocked, we reap what we sow.

    #55178

    Simon
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    I’m not going in circles at all

    #55179

    Love'n Honey
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    But where does it say in the bible you have to know you are wrong to be considered wrong?

    #55180

    Love'n Honey
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    The only part I remember you having to know you were wrong [knowingly] is described in the city of refuge.

    #55181

    Sarah2013
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    James 4:17

    #55182

    Love'n Honey
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    You reap what you sow. If I sow a daisy thinking it's a rose, will I get roses? This is why I believe that you don't have to know you're teaching false doctrine in order to be a false prophet. You are unknowingly a false prophet but a false prophet nonetheless.

    #55183

    Sarah2013
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    If you says so.

    #55184

    Love'n Honey
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    If anyone knows the good they ought to do but does NOT do it, the NOT doing is a sin. How does this prove that if you don't know you are wrong, then it's not a sin? Just because my daughter doesn't know you're not supposed to write on the walls doesn't make writing on the walls ok. Not knowing doesn't change whether something is accepted or not. Knowing only threatens your judgement on whether or not you will or won't do whatever it is you're thinking about doing.

    These people who are preaching false doctrine don't realize it's false. But they are preaching because they believe the doctrine is good and know they should do what is good. But it isn't good. Preaching false doctrine is a sin, whether you know it is false or not. That is what I believe. And from the verse speaking about not adding or taking away, it looks like God is only ok with people killing someone else if they did it on accident.

    #55185

    Sarah2013
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    Whatever you say.

    #55186

    Questioninginla
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    Perhaps if we defined false prophets in the context of active and passive false prophets, where:

    A false prophet in the active context has full knowledge they are deceiving others.

    A false prophet in the passive context is one that did not have informed consent from the group one joined, and in good faith of one's belief goes about recruiting others into the group with prophecy & Scripture.

    I don't have a dog in this fight, which is perhaps why I see things differently.  It appears from this thread that one is either all-in as a prophet or not, and this is just not the case because there are many shades of in-between grays when viewing this phenomenon from the outside.

     

    Edited after Sarahs post that follows:

    "Preaching false doctrine is a sin, whether you know it is false or not."  Renita, please view on youtube, "Westboro Baptist Church family disowns daughter", in full, and consider what the children say.  They are repeating doctrine that has been taught.  Are they sinners?  My point is not to pick on you but to question, what is in my view, more all-or-nothing thought processes.

    In this video, if we watch carefully, is more lessons, and more "here is what the verses mean", just like in other videos I have mentioned in other posts; can anyone mention another organization that interprets the Bible for us?

    #55187

    Sarah2013
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    @ Questioningla, I can agree with your comment.

    #55188

    Simon
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    Active and passive may be accurate but we cannot discern

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