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What's the deal with this? Zahng Gil-Jah is the "Chairwoman" but I can not find a single mention of connection to the church on the web site?
http://eng.weloveu.or.kr/intro/welcome01.asp
Can a current or former member explain this to me please.
Thank you.
Come to think of it, mutual and trade can refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. Trade = mutual exchange isn't it?
Well there it is. From the real pictures we’ve seen of him, he looks like he did ok financially. And COG has taken his name and made it a massive business. Prophecy fulfilled!
emil wrote:
Come to think of it, mutual and trade can refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. Trade = mutual exchange isn't it?
Not the same. Trade is a verb and so is exchange. Mutual is an adjective describing the verb. Trade and mutual aren't the same.
Renita I clarified that the grammar needs to be handled. Such problems are caused when translating across totally dissimilar languages. You split up mutual and exchange to make your conclusion but I said Trade = "mutual exchange". Exchange is not always a verb. How about stock exchange or telephone exchange? In the phrase "mutual exchange", exchange is a noun.
Just to point out one more thing, if exchange was indeed a verb then the descriptive word before it is called an adverb not adjective if I correctly remeber my school grammar of so many decades ago.
Sorry I did not mean to lecture or be condescending.
emil wrote:
I think it was from this blog:
http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.in/2010/04/examining-prophecies-new-name.html
See the comment:
Ahn(안)安 is a family name,
Sahng(상)商 means trade/business/commercial,
Hong(홍)洪 means something massive.
Parents create a name by combining the words that form a meaning of what kind of expectation they have for their child in future.
You can see I was slightly off but not by that much.
Yep, that's all I've got. And I've yet to hear it verified by another member. (I don't know if "gaga" was a member.)
And how about Zahng's name?
emil wrote:
Renita I clarified that the grammar needs to be handled. Such problems are caused when translating across totally dissimilar languages. You split up mutual and exchange to make your conclusion but I said Trade = "mutual exchange". Exchange is not always a verb. How about stock exchange or telephone exchange? In the phrase "mutual exchange", exchange is a noun.
Just to point out one more thing, if exchange was indeed a verb then the descriptive word before it is called an adverb not adjective if I correctly remeber my school grammar of so many decades ago.
Sorry I did not mean to lecture or be condescending.
You took 2 different words and put them together to mean trade which isn't the same thing.
I am willing to accept where I am wrong but I looked in the dictionary and mutual is an adjective. "mutual exchange" uses exchange as a noun just like run is used in "Did you go to the bull run?"
renita.payno wrote:
emil wrote:
Come to think of it, mutual and trade can refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. Trade = mutual exchange isn't it?
Not the same. Trade is a verb and so is exchange. Mutual is an adjective describing the verb. Trade and mutual aren't the same.
Of course anything can refer to the same thing if you add other words to it. You can have a mutual trade or a mutual exchange. You are trying to connect mutual with trade when you can connect any adjective to any noun or verb.
It's like saying "House and big refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. House = big residence."
I don’t know if Zhang’s name could be properly translated because we don’t know if her name is Zhang, Chang or Chung. I have seen all three spellings for her. If someone knows the Korean alphabet spelling for her name then maybe it can be figured out.
Interesting article about Korean names: http://belectricground.com/2011/08/08/korean-language-and-culture-series-korean-names-part-4
It's got a section about older Korean women with names ending with "Ja." (Keeping in mind that Zahng is her surname, and Gil Jah is her given name.)
Zhang chang and jang are all legitimate transliterations of her family name id assume any other spellings wee see are likewise
Oh so Zhang is her family name and her own unique name is Gil Jah
Disturbed wrote:
Oh so Zhang is her family name and her own unique name is Gil Jah
Nice name though. Gil Jah… I like it. Just not enough to worship it.
I agree
renita.payno wrote:
emil wrote:
Renita I clarified that the grammar needs to be handled. Such problems are caused when translating across totally dissimilar languages. You split up mutual and exchange to make your conclusion but I said Trade = "mutual exchange". Exchange is not always a verb. How about stock exchange or telephone exchange? In the phrase "mutual exchange", exchange is a noun.
Just to point out one more thing, if exchange was indeed a verb then the descriptive word before it is called an adverb not adjective if I correctly remeber my school grammar of so many decades ago.
Sorry I did not mean to lecture or be condescending.
You took 2 different words and put them together to mean trade which isn't the same thing.
I am willing to accept where I am wrong but I looked in the dictionary and mutual is an adjective. "mutual exchange" uses exchange as a noun just like run is used in "Did you go to the bull run?"
renita.payno wrote:
emil wrote:
Come to think of it, mutual and trade can refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. Trade = mutual exchange isn't it?
Not the same. Trade is a verb and so is exchange. Mutual is an adjective describing the verb. Trade and mutual aren't the same.
Of course anything can refer to the same thing if you add other words to it. You can have a mutual trade or a mutual exchange. You are trying to connect mutual with trade when you can connect any adjective to any noun or verb.
It's like saying "House and big refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. House = big residence."
Renita, this is not important enough to spend so much effort on. I get what you are saying. However, when we translate between two totally different languages with no cultural connections, there are other considerations, specially when you don't get an exact one-word traslation.
Seems like a post hoc reasoning joke more than a translation
Disturbed wrote:
Oh so Zhang is her family name and her own unique name is Gil Jah
Yes, same with Ahn. Ahn is his surname, Sahng Hong is his given name. (for any one who needs clarity)
I've tried to find Korean baby name websites to look up the names but I haven't been real successful at that yet.
emil wrote:
renita.payno wrote:
Of course anything can refer to the same thing if you add other words to it. You can have a mutual trade or a mutual exchange. You are trying to connect mutual with trade when you can connect any adjective to any noun or verb.
It's like saying "House and big refer to the same thing if the grammar is handled. House = big residence."
Renita, this is not important enough to spend so much effort on. I get what you are saying. However, when we translate between two totally different languages with no cultural connections, there are other considerations, specially when you don't get an exact one-word traslation.
You asked a question: Isn't it? And I answered.. it's not. Perhaps your question was rhetorical. Either way it was answered. So much effort might be coming from you because of the cultural difference but this is practically effortless for me. Stop responding if you don't want to discuss it. Don't ask a question if you don't want it answered.
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