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    Love'n Honey
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    Tru dat.

    #56658

    Azula
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    But it was written Matt 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”

    It was not said we should repent because the end is nigh. All those who focus on the end and use it to manipulate people are truly near sighted.

    And it is also written Mark 12:28-34 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these.” <sup class=”versenum”><font size=”2″>32 </font>“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. <sup class=”versenum”><font size=”2″>33 </font>To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

    So even if they do get the timing right, the mere fact that they focus on the end and on rituals (like Sabbath and Passover) means that they cannot lead people to heaven.

    For it is also writen, 1 Sam 16:17 "But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

     

    #56657

    Smurf
    Member

    Exactly, but if SHTF in the next 8 to 10 years they WILL be able to say: "Ha, we told you so!"

    The reason people like them can thrive is that the church isn't doing it's job properly.

    #56656

    MountainMom
    Participant

    2014?  2015?  As of 2011 I know of a kid in Seattle who was told the end was going to be in 2018.  And my son and the others in his Zion were definitely thinking it was 2012 in the years preceding that date. 

    All to give them a sense of urgency for preaching.   Hurry, hurry, hurry!  Lives depend on it and there isn't much time!

    #56655

    Love'n Honey
    Member

    One success and ignore the thousand.

    Odd you mention that. they preach that if a church does even one thing wrong, has everything correct except for one teaching, that church cannot be the true church.

    What they are practicing is if we have one thing right, if everything is false except for that one truth, we’re the true church.

    For those who were extended members, have they ever called a specific year the year of jubilee? From a sermon pastor Brian gave, the prophetic year of jubilee is when all the prisoners of earth are set free to return to their hometown, heaven. 2014 is the year of jubilee. If that’s the case, even us “backsliders” will go to heaven because ALL the debts of ALL prisoners will be forgiven.

    #56654

    emil
    Member

    ^ what 99.99%?

    For them it is, and always has been, 100%. Failure.

    #56653

    Smurf
    Member

    True… and they can stretch this for at least another decade or so. 2015 has been on the table for a while now, I'm curious to see where it leads.

    Sooner or later they're going to get it right though. What happens then? All they need is one successful prediction and no one's going to pay attention to the thousands of failed ones.

    How long before they realize God's success rate is always, ALWAYS 100%~!

    99.99 doesn't cut it 😐

    #56652

    Azula
    Participant

    This rhetoric about the end being delayed sounds like a whole lot of hog-wash. The FACT of the matter is that it was declared that the end WILL come in 1988, but when the so called coming failed to materialise you're then told, "Oops! There was the prophecy of Jonah." The point of the matter is that telling people of the prophecy of Jonah AFTER his failure to come is deceptive and evil. If you KNEW that he would be delayed or relent or whatever then there is no need to mention that he will come in 1988 or 2012.

    This actually appears to be the MO of the organisation. Telling you of the impending doom coming in 2015 and then when the so called prophecy fails to be fulfiled you're then made aware of another prophecy that said the end would come in 2018. How is this different from Hananiah? And I fail to see how believing what you're being told as being evil, because what is this rubbish of saying that those who focus on the date are evil? When it is mentioned that the end will come and then all of a sudden you're evil because you belived what God supposedly said? Really now! It's like a mind rape of the worst kind.

    #56651

    Love'n Honey
    Member

    renita.payno wrote:

    Who here has had the study about the tabernacle? PM me.. it's about the 1st curtain being torn when Jesus died and the 2nd curtain being torn when ASH died..

     I can hardly believe I found my notes on this study by ACCIDENT! I was looking for a CD and found a few folders that had some sermons, preaching practice stuff, and bible study notes. WOW! Tell me that's not a sign from God without lying… =)

    I tought I threw everything away.

    #56650

    Love'n Honey
    Member

    I don't think you're going to get the answer you're looking for.. You can only squeeze out so much juice from an orange. Plus, I did say to PM me about the tabernacle thing. My "L" key it trippin'..

    #56649

    Disturbed
    Member

    I never got a complete answer on what does the completion of the temple exactly mean. Because like someone else mentioned preaching/recruitment efforts are continuing.

    #56648

    emil
    Member

    Let us see what FTOS has to say. He mentioned the end of the building of the temple. Let him elaborate on that as well.

    #56647

    Disturbed
    Member

    @emil…the church is back pedaling saying they never preached that. They do not preach “time limited eschatology” is what they say. They also say it is a sin to focus on the date. The bridegroom is delayed, giving “us” more time to prepare our oil for our lamps (parable of the virgins). You know….damage control

    #56646

    emil
    Member

    ^ You just insisted I was wrong without any proof. Whereas I gave you proof. Perhaps you need to go and look again. I don't want to bring that discussion in here and clutter up this thread.

    Here let us stick to the discussion about what exactly was supposed to happen in 2012 according to Ahn.

    #56645

    Emil, you already got my responce you can go back and look again. 

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