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Rev. 12:7-9
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The wmscog teaches that people are the angels who were cast out of heaven. What about satan? He was cast out of heaven too, but was he put into a human body? Which one? Wouldn't he be dead and gone now? Or was he cast out differently than the other bad angels.
How many bad angels were there? There are approximately 7 billion people on earth right now, plus all those who previously lived. Are there that many fallen angels? Of have some of them been reincarnated into humans over and over again?
Rev. 12:4 can be interpreted that the fallen angels were about 1/3 of all angels. Does that mean there are 14+ billion good angels still in heaven?
I know not everyone on this forum is a Christian or believes in satan the same way, but just go with it for now… If the wmscog were right about the fallen angels doctrine, what impact would that have on who satan is?
And wmscog members, you can help clear this up. How does it all fit together?
And while we are at it, how about babies who die or are born handicapped, disfigured, or otherwise 'defective' (for lack of a better word)? Did they deserve it because of their sin in heaven? How are they and their parents treated by the wmscog? What does the wmscog teach about them?
(PS — I'm a parent myself, and I don't mean to be cruel or offensive with the wording, but rather than step lightly to avoid hurt feelings, I'd like to get to the root of the issue.)
that's ridiculous.
that's ridiculous.
By my church's teachings they are God. and by my Church's teachings Satan will never be allowed to wear flesh.
By my church's teachings they are God. and by my Church's teachings Satan will never be allowed to wear flesh.
it makes perfect sense I already explained to Genny the three types of angels exposed intentional sinners, unexposed intentional sinners, and unintentional sinners; of which only the last two would be thrown out Satan being of the first type.
it makes perfect sense I already explained to Genny the three types of angels exposed intentional sinners, unexposed intentional sinners, and unintentional sinners; of which only the last two would be thrown out Satan being of the first type.
Why would God want to forgive an intentional sinner?
Why would God want to forgive an intentional sinner?
no. God doesn't forgive intentional sin.
no. God doesn't forgive intentional sin.
can you cite an example of God forgiving Intentional Sin?
can you cite an example of God forgiving Intentional Sin?
I would assume that according to the OT, loocpoc would be stoned in front of the whole assembly. That doesn't sound very forgiving. But Jesus says to forgive 70 7's or something like that. I don't remember Him being specific on what kind of sin to forgive. But the intentional sinner will never ask for God's forgiveness as explained in The City of Refuge & the Earth.
I would assume that according to the OT, loocpoc would be stoned in front of the whole assembly. That doesn't sound very forgiving. But Jesus says to forgive 70 7's or something like that. I don't remember Him being specific on what kind of sin to forgive. But the intentional sinner will never ask for God's forgiveness as explained in The City of Refuge & the Earth.
Deut 21:18If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.” 21Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Deut 21:18If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.” 21Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
What is blasphemy against the HS?
What is blasphemy against the HS?
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