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Ricki Lake had a show today titled “I survived a cult”. Cult expert Rick Ross gave many characteristics of a cult. One characteristic is the cult is personality driven. Example: David Koresh. I say god the mother fits that one. Another is isolation from loved ones. Also indoctrination. Rick Ross said if your loved one is in a cult don’t blurt it out to them.
Good timing that she had the topic on today. Perhaps the episode can be watched soon as the airing date was today.
from what I can see rick ross is more a guru than a reliable person and.ricki lake is a bit sensationalist.
Im sure good points were made as
Accept the truth from whatever source it comes
even ricki lake even zgj
That's good. The only problem with these experts is the absense of educating outside of scripture. However, the idea of it all is great.
I didn't know Ricki Lake still had a show… I definitely agree that you should blurt it out to your loved ones. My mom did that and it pissed me off! She hasn't even apologized for it. That woman is a real piece of work….. Anywho, what station does it come on?
instead of worrying about labels addressing the issues themselves
The labels are there because the issues have been addressed.. Without knowing the issues, how can someone label an organization as anything?
The fact is labels mean what you want them to mean but if you address the issues themselves they can’t equivocate even on pretense
Another issue is they may start the lds all religions are cults argument
They already spun brain washing to a trigger word
Stop using labels Shimon.
I agree with Simon here. Calling it a cult is a label, even if it may be accurate. One could take the characteristics listed by the experts and apply them to most religions and show instances where they match. The guys on the inside will never realize they are in a cult.
The thing that really stands out for the wmscog is the false teaching and dcotrines. That in itself is damaging to the soul without emphasizing the cult angle.
In short, I would say that the cult point works well when the discussion is purely secular. When it comes to a Christian discussion, we must focus on the doctrine and how scripture is twisted. there is a time and place for either approach.
I have a question, Emil. What would you say " The Peoples Temple – Jim Jones was? A cult or mere misconception of scripture/doctrine/false teaching ? Oh… Just incase, here is a little info on The Peoples Temple. www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IxGGfpSWk
Bear in mind that Jim Jones went from being pastor to being seen as Jesus/deity to his believing members. At some point his memebers would say they believe in Jim Jones.
Every religion ever is a cult
I have no doubt it was a cult.
The point I was making was not whether or not the wmscog is a cult, but the approach we need to take while debating with members. Harping on the cult angle is not going to help guide members out. They are blinded to it.
Simon wrote:
Every religion ever is a cult
I disagree.
Wiki: The word cult in current popular usage is a pejorative term for a new religious movement or other group whose beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre by the largersociety.<sup class=”reference” id=”cite_ref-1″ style=”line-height: 1em; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”>[1] Wiki. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
So how is every religion ever a cult?
Your only using one definition
Also I might point out the biggest most important belief in christianity IS considered bizarre by the larger community
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