[Hurt]

I haven't been on in a while and was never really this active. Breifly, I have a loved one in the wms, now it's been 1 year and a couple months. She is a University student and it's gotten to the point where she saw herself in Heaven soon. This scared me, and I really don't want to reveal much over the internet, but I had gone to the university's administration when this all began, because that's where a member appraoched her. They told me it was a public University so they are allowed to do that. I asked for resources and help and although they said they weren't familiar with it, they would try to help. I know it'sa process, but they have not helped nor reache dout to me. They don't know how deep this is. All I've seen are extreme or maybe normal religious deomnstration on campus at the beginning of this semester, and I'm not sure what it was supposed to accomplish, nor if it were related to the administration helping this situation. I left my loved one for a while as I am carruing with my own life. But our guardian can't deal with her anymore. I feel more for my guardian than I do for myself. But I am afraid my guardian is just full of hate. And I do understand, but I feel like it's also a hate from past experiences, and then now this really low blow.

I am just confused. I really feel caught in the middle, between them, and also what to do and how to act, I feel like I should leave my loved one alone. My I feel if I leave her alone, she won't come back if she snaps out of it. My guardian is so resentful that she doesn't care what happens at this point, and doesn't understand, like many, what goes on in the church. My guardian feels that the wms is so dangerous, that they are willing to sex traffic or have my loved one as a sex slave. I havne't heard of these cases, but I really do fear for my loved one. I'm afraid of a mass suicide with these people. I just don't know what to do or think anymore. I'm just sad and want my loved ones to be happy.

[Mayor and Mike]

[Mayor and Mike]

This church group is not that extreme. There is no sex trafficking, and there is no mass suicides. Also people do not disappear.

What this church does is create division. So the fear and worry probably come from there. As for going to heaven soon, people in the church believe it. When I went to South Korea years ago, I heard south Korean leaders say that, we are going to heaven very very soon. He talked like it was going to happen that year. But no. We have time yet.

The church creates an urgency to motivate people to go out preaching.

[UntouchableJ]

In 4 years, every other Saturday we were told “Father is so close”. Mayor is right…its all about urgency. The end is always near. They won’t do anything as crazy as sex trafficing. They are big into money, asking members for alot to pay for church growth.

I would say to stay by your loved one. All ex members had varying reasons that we “woke up” one day. But many of us had loved ones on the other side, waiting for us. My mom personally didnt give up on us. She wasn’t a bible scholar, but loved us through our 4years in WMS

[MountainMom]

I agree with Mayor and Mike and Untouchable.  They aren't going to do mass suicide or anything like that.  You can't get money out of dead people, and that has always been the main focus for the Wms.  Some people do kind of disappear, but not as in they died.  They are just moved to another Zion for whatever reason and they are influenced (my opinion) not to tell their parents where they are or any way to get in touch. 

[AbbaFather07]

My husband said suicide is a sin and if he was asked to commit suicide he would know it was a cult. I was feeling the same way you are but they wouldnt get any money from dead people. Mountainmom is correct in that accept

[Mayor and Mike]

*aspect

[AbbaFather07]

Thanks Mayor!