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Every so often I try to spend some time trying to understand the mindset of the WMSCOG. I go to their website and read some of the stuff they are preaching to their members. Without doing any studying or research outside of what is written it seems ok. This is where the problems start. There is enough truth to make it seem real but upon further inspection and holding it up to the Word of God you realize that it falls apart and you ask yourself, "How can people really fall for this?"
Once again this morning I looked at a sermon titled: Let Your Manner of Life be Worthy of the Gospel.
I was only able to get through part of it before I was fed up with it. For your consideration I give you part of what is written and my thoughts about it.
Sermon: For 6,000years God has been unceasingly working to fulfill the prophecies.
Thought: Doesn't the WMS believe that God created the world? The WMS teaches that Adam and Eve were not the first humans. It sounds like God was not at work at all prior to Adam and Eve. I will NEVER believe something like that.
Sermon: If we want to conduct ourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel, we should give rather than receive. If we would like to receive, we may give others trouble or loss mentally or materially. It is not a manner worthy of the gospel.
Thought: I have personally seen as well as heard of the mental and material loss created by the WMSCOG. Putting that aside my question would be, "What's with the Tithe and Offering envelopes that are named and forced onto members in the various Zions?" Now member, don't try to deny this. The WMS teaches and pushes that you do not enter the house of god empty handed. This creates both a mental burden as well as a material burden. This is not a manner worthy of the gospel!
Sermon: He who wants only to receive is like a man who drinks seawater to quench his thirst; the more he drinks, the more he feels thirsty. Such a man is never satisfied.
Thought: The WMSCOG keeps sucking off of their members, the salt of the earth, and is never satisfied. They also strive to create this type of situation mentally in their members. When a member has a question (thirst) they tell them that they have a study for that (seawater) and that the members need to study more (drink more seawater). This leads to more questions (thirst) and to more studies (drinking seawater). This is how they keep their members trapped but believing that they are thinking for themselves. Aren't these questions from their own minds? Are they? The questions seem to stem out of what they have been taught. How does the WMS know when the teachings have been effective? When the member ask certain questions that lead to more studies. It's entrapment folks.
Sermon: Since the new covenant was destroyed by the Devil,
Thought: On this rock I will build my church and the gate of Hell shall not prevail against it.
Sermon: our God has restored all His decrees and laws including the seven annual feast of three times.
Thought: Galatians speaks openly to this. "But now, after that you have known God, or rather known of God, how can you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain." This book also addresses the feast as being a bondage.
The WMSCOG desires to imprison you, waste your efforts, and control you for their purposes. This is NOT a life worthy of the gospel. I had to stop there for now. Everytime I visit any of the WMS controlled websites I feel a overwelming dread by their words of deception. I feel somehow infected with sin. Please understand that I wish to expose everything that I can to you but I also have a desire to see you researching materials yourself. The truth will set you free. God gave you a mind and he expects you to use it for His glory. This is worthy of the gospel.
Current members know this verse well, trust me. They all concur.
But you have to get the blessings! Being saved is not enough! Blessings, more blessings, it's like they're on sale or something. 😀
The members attention is being diverted to collecting blessings.
Which is an unachievable goal!
Questioninginla wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Father (((Stained))) appeared to me yet again telling me to p/a/s/s on this information:
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
The verse referenced in Ephesians is valuable, but
the process (of so-called "mind control") is one of making black/white off/on this/that (polar opposites) exist simultaneously in the mind. Would the ex-members on the forum please comment on the following: would you have been working your tail off when you were a member and then looked at this verse and said something along the lines of 'I am working on faith / not by works', yet now that you are out you can obviously see what you could not while in? Explain, if you would how/what/why you justified it at the time.
Eph 1:7-8 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace that he lavished on us. Matt 26:27-28 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
What is the grace of God? Receiving the forgiveness of sins through the PO. Through the prophecy of the City of Refuge we can see that it is time for us to go back home. But do you want to return to heaven without your brothers and sisters? Do you want to leave them behind? We must preach the Gospel continuously so we can find all of our brothers and sisters and go home together. It is not by our works that gets us into heaven but the grace given through Father's blood on the night of the PO that we are promised eternal life.
Love'n Honey wrote:
We must preach the Gospel continuously so we can find all of our brothers and sisters and go home together.
Sounds like a short leap to cut off family members that are non-believers, for they are not of the chosen/brothers & sisters? Or, is there a way to save them – which I wouldn't be surprised to learn that not being with family is somehow equated to "love" for them. Which could explain how wmscog being so family friendly could be viewed as legitimate by members but BS to family members that are shunned, ignored, or whatever.
The pattern is really quite remarkable; it is just one iteration away from what is really going on and people can't see it.
another example? We don't "fear" the outside world….we just get protection from this place over here, so I choose to spend my time there. Again, I choose and I don't fear. Fear indoctrination? What fear indoctrination?
Thoughts?
Oh yeah, that's right…Father came in the age of the Holy Spirit, so all of this discussion would be eternal hellfire, for sins against the Holy Spirit are not forgiven. Checkmate – I gotcha now curious new member!
Joshua wrote:
Questioninginla wrote:
Love'n Honey wrote:
We must preach the Gospel continuously so we can find all of our brothers and sisters and go home together.
Sounds like a short leap to cut off family members that are non-believers, for they are not of the chosen/brothers & sisters? Or, is there a way to save them – which I wouldn't be surprised to learn that not being with family is somehow equated to "love" for them. Which could explain how wmscog being so family friendly could be viewed as legitimate by members but BS to family members that are shunned, ignored, or whatever.
The pattern is really quite remarkable; it is just one iteration away from what is really going on and people can't see it.
another example? We don't "fear" the outside world….we just get protection from this place over here, so I choose to spend my time there. Again, I choose and I don't fear. Fear indoctrination? What fear indoctrination?
Thoughts?
Oh yeah, that's right…Father came in the age of the Holy Spirit, so all of this discussion would be eternal hellfire, for sins against the Holy Spirit are not forgiven. Checkmate – I gotcha now curious new member!
I'm starting to feel a little disconcerted about the way some people are being "labled" in our forum. If I hadn't taken a chance and talked with some of you here you might still be disillusioned by the WMSCOG. I want to plead with those of you that might be witch hunting here. If members of the WMS want to troll here and try and trip us up lets let them try. We get the opportunity to shed a little light and a lot of truth with these folks even though their intentions might not have been honorable. God takes the bad and uses it for good folks. Please, lets not forget that.
Joshua, that's a great point, for instance, "Too Hungry"….is not a ***plant*** I guess he's not a rebel either but not everybody is. Maybe he's just "mature" and handles things differently, who knows???
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