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My brother and I lives in separate cities. Around September 2012, he convinced me to take a little vacation and come visit him. Because I missed him and my little bro, I agreed to take two weeks vacation to spend time with them there. He told me he got a new religion. Since he was formerly an atheist, hearing that he began to believe in God again made me happy. On the first Saturday of my visit, he and I went to this church of his. His new religion is WORLD MISSION SOCIETY CHURCH OF GOD.
I went there with an open-minded thinking. I am not an expert with the bible and their words seemed to fit with the teachings in the bible at first. So I listened and take note of their teachings that seemed so new to me and I planned on giving their beliefs some consideration. At the end of the day, much to my surprise, they were saying that they are preparing for my "BAPTISM". I refused THREE TIMES. But they kept saying that it is important to do it now and gave me passages from the bible saying "Do not worry about tomorrow for you will not know what will happen today" kind of thing. Since I am not a person with a strong personality, I let myself be lead into it without further protests.
That day, I prayed to God : "God if this is what you want from me, if this is Your will…I will accept it". Then I was baptised. To my amazement, that same day in the afternoon, my little brother (who was at home) experienced SEIZURE. He has epilepsy but haven't experienced seizure for many months now. This happening gave me a sense of dread. I kept thinking that it might be a sign. And it DIDN'T feel like it was a GOOD sign.
I had my own problems with my faith. Some of their teachings strengthened my faith in GOD again. But even though I am not a Bible expert, my English understanding is, should I say, above average. So I was puzzled by some of their teachings that I think contradicts the message of the Bible. At first I thought that maybe because they are Korean, their English is not very good. So I did my own reading, and with some help of the internet, I came to realize that MOST OF THEIR TEACHINGS ARE FALSE! Some of it really, really contradicts the Bible. So I wrote notes and questions and discussed it with my brother.
THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS. My brother, even though with all the proof I showed him, didn't believe me! He kept twisting the message in the Bible so that it would fit to what they are teaching. THEY DO NOT BASE THEIR BELIEFS ON THE BIBLE BUT ACTUALLY USE THE CAREFULLY CHOSEN BIBLE PASSAGES TO PROVE THEIR BELIEFS!
So, with only less than TWO WEEKS to spend before I have to use my return ticket… I didn't have enough time to convince my brother from that false path. Now, I am here, much closer to God because of this experience (I started reading the Bible from the top to know God more) with a brother, who is moving farther and farther away from the truth. SO THIS IS MY IMPORTANT QUESTION: WHEN WILL THEIR PROFESSED "GOD THE MOTHER" DIE?!?!
The WMSCOG believes that the END will come when their "God the mother" dies. They told me that when she leaves the earth, the LAST JUDGEMENT will come. So, the only way I can get my brother back again is when SHE DIES and seeing "PEOPLE GOES ON LIVING" will prove that they have false teachings and false gods. It might seem bad of me to wish her early death, but I think she caused enough problems that will last every victim a lifetime.
She is prophesied not to die.. Ever.. To answer your question.
She is suppose to ascend into heaven alive, along with the 144,000. She can not die before then, if she does then that alone will proof everything was false! Unless of course they hide it, or get a look-a-like to fill in, or they can make up an excuse for all to believe, but you have to remember GOD can not lie, so if she said she is waiting for the 144,000 to be ready to ascend, it has to happen.
To be honest, don't wait for his love for Mother to die. The first thing I will recommend you is dont "persecute" him, dont tell him he is in a cult, dont tell him that he is wrong. Research, do a lot of research about Mind Control, read books, meet with a counselor (not a regular therapist but somebody that knows about cults and mind control) and make a plan.
Don't just wait. I was in that church for a long time, and what got me more upset from my family is that they didnt try. They called me a cult member, they said I was brainwashed, and once they saw I wasnt leaving the church, they just let me be, and kinda accepted they had lost me, or accepted that this was my religion. Thats the reason why it took me so long to leave. So please, don't just wait, but be very aggresive before he has to quit his life, get married in an arranged marriage or just worst.
Learn a lot about the church, the doctrines and why are they wrong. If he invites you, and you feel prepared, go, so that he doesnt say "you never come to my church, you dont know whats it about", but show him that you care. The best technique, is love, not arguments, nor sarcasm, but just strong love. He misses you guys, he loves you, but part of his brain tells him, "you cant be weak", so try to understand him. Hope this helps
Maybe teaching that mother has to die for us to go to heaven is to hide the fact that she’s human, not God, and is on her last leg. Maybe she’s really sick and doesn’t have much longer to go.
Still, if she passes and people aren't teleported or whatever, they're left with a bit of a conundrum. Sure, they can just say it happened spiritually or blatantly lie and say that it happened in secret. But I think they'd still lose a sizable chunk of people.
I just read something on my FB page that said real eyes realize real lies.
renita.payno wrote:
Maybe teaching that mother has to die for us to go to heaven is to hide the fact that she's human, not God, and is on her last leg. Maybe she's really sick and doesn't have much longer to go.
They have been teaching how sick she is directly in the "zion" I went to.
They told me that she was weak physically. It never crossed my mind that God could get an illness
Its just a staged drama, so does that heart wrenching story about how mama zhang almost go blind reading all the letters from all her children’s all over the world, its all bulls just so the wmscog could say Ohhh look thats how deep mama love is.
OH PLEASE! True God does not need a letter from me, telling her what I'm feeling or need. God created me so he knows what I'm thinking and what I'm going to do, even before the thought comes to my mind. I'm just a character in this world, my life has already been written!
Most gods dont need letters or interpreters, only that mama god who do.
They never told me how he died. They said he died of some unforseen cause. He wasn’t murder, it wasn’t suicide. They never gave me specifics.
I was told the same as Hal.
KC wrote:
Its just a staged drama, so does that heart wrenching story about how mama zhang almost go blind reading all the letters from all her children's all over the world, its all bulls just so the wmscog could say Ohhh look thats how deep mama love is.
never heard anything about her going blind beyond normal presbyopia
renita.payno wrote:
They never told me how he died. They said he died of some unforseen cause. He wasn't murder, it wasn't suicide. They never gave me specifics.
They made it clear in my Zion, they even mention it the King David and Christ Ahn Sahnghong here
I don't think they would order a mass suicide because they believe that is against the Law. If anyone commits suicide, they can't go to heaven. So, that would defeat the purpose of their faith. There could be a mass murder where the members are tricked to eat or drink something poisonous. OYG!!! This reminds me of a dream I had a long time ago!!
Shortly after I joined the WMSCOG, I dreamt a very sad dream that when I woke, I was very distraught. There is a building that is difficult to describe on the outside. It was made of concrete and had steps leading to the front double-doors. When you go inside, it looked much like an emtpy rectangular pool. On the inside, everything was concrete except a few storages crates. The room was as large as an auditorium and was filled with people. No specific people, just people. I didn't recognize any of them. When I walked in the room, I quickly noted all the exits. (A habit I've had for years but I don't know where it came from.) There were only 2, the front double doors and a single door in the back corner. Everyone in the room was smiling and talking to eachother. It wasn't a party or celebration of any kind. Just a gathering of people. I noticed someone in the back of the room who looked fairly serious, as if he was concentrating on something but no one paid him any mind. That made me feel uneasy so I panicked and ran for the front double doors. Immediately the guy in the back ran out the back door and locked it from the outside. The people looked shocked trying to figure out what was going on. Suddenly, the back of the room catches on fire and everyone scurries for the double doors. I and a few others, maybe 6 others, were able to fight our way through. We were thrown in a deep empty dumpster while some other people chained the double doors shut. They ran away and all I could hear was screaming and banging on the door. After I struggled to get out of the dumpster, I searched for something to break the chains. I found something heavy but that was after a few minutes of searching. When I got the double doors, the screaming had stopped; no one was banging on the door. I didn't try to open it because I was afraid of what I would see. I ran to the dumpster to help the other people but they had already escaped and scattered. I ran away in my dream crying and screaming for someone to call the police. I woke up sweaty, my heart beating over 100 times a minute.
Shortly after I joined the WMSCOG, I had many, many terrible dreams. Dreams of being or feeling like I was in danger and escaping with only a few people. They all had the same things in common: a large, crowded room with few exits; a few people who separated themselves from the others; and my escape. Whenever I told my Missionary or a sister about my dreams, they would interpret it in a way where I saved people from going to hell by bringing them to Zion.
I've been updating my good friend about the things I've read and researched on my own. I've also asked her questions about certain subjects since she still attends some services. I ask her about what she knows or heard and I compare it to what I know and have heard. She's starting to see things that don't make sense but I don't know how she feels about continueing to go to Zion. She already made clear to me that she's having a hard time believing in F&M but it's been over 2 years since we've been baptized. We were baptized together. Personally, I feel if you are still unsure then you should leave. She stays for the same reason I stayed. She believes in thier Sabbath and PO and we've found no other church who teaches the same thing the same way.
Alright, I'm a bit confused. Are they teaching now that 'mother' *will* die, and then the end will come? Because I was taught clearly that 'mother' will NOT die, but take the faithful 144,000 alive to heaven with her.
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