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Sometimes I look at our forum and I think about all of the people that I've met. Many of the people over time have stopped posting and hopefully moved forward with their lives. This is both bitter and sweet. For those of you that have been engaged with me in one form or another I have not given up this fight and I am here for anyone and everyone that needs someone to talk to, vent at, or dispute one way or the other. I say this because I have not posted here for a while and like myself I'm sure that some of you have wondered where I went. My ministry work has taken a turn and has once again become more of a face to face kind of thing. Recently I have been engaged in helping families in my area. As far as the WMS stuff goes I had an opportunity to spend some time talking to a "missionary". I use this term only because that's what the WMS likes to call certain individuals in their group. While I was engaged with this person I kept tripping him up on his own doctrine. I could feel the confusion growing inside of him as he was unable to "prove" the "sermon" that I asked him about from the WMS website. I remained calm and acted as if I was really trying to understand where the WMS was coming from with their idea. Folks, this interaction was both funny and saddenly pathetic. I am hoping to be able to have a long conversation with this individual again because I do believe that even he is valued by God. If this individual will be open minded and do some research on his own, even he can be freed from this bondage and h e l l that he's trapped in. Please take a few moments and pray. (To the One True God only please) It may be hard for some of you to pray for the WMS but please take the time to pray for me and what I'm trying to do. Thank you all and I'm really looking forward to what God has in store for us in the New Year!
I pray for my loved one, which seems by the minute, daily and will continue to do so until God delivers her from this "group." I don't go more than a few hours when something will remind me to pray for her…Not only do I pray for my loved one ,I pray for all the lost souls who actually believe the practices and doctrines they ingrain in their minds. I pray for the Holy Spirt to convict their hearts and show them these are false teachings. What I would like to know is, if you can answer this, where is the line where people that are involved with this church really know this isnt true?? Does it start with Zhang? Does she really tkink she is god? Does she really think she is a woman god? Or, does she know she is tricking these innocent souls?? If she is god, why doesn't she just step forward as Jesus did and offer to save all mankind. It just does not make sense…
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What I would like to know is, if you can answer this, where is the line where people that are involved with this church really know this isnt true?? Does it start with Zhang? Does she really tkink she is god? Does she really think she is a woman god? Or, does she know she is tricking these innocent souls?? If she is god, why doesn't she just step forward as Jesus did and offer to save all mankind. It just does not make sense…
Believe it or not, there ARE genuinely bad people in this world. Some got corrupted along the way
and don't even realize it, but then again going downhill will always be the easier way.
couldn't the bad ones be in the middle too..
Maybe Zhang is mentally unballanced and they manipulated her.. we honestly don't know if/who is to blame here… but that isn't the important part we need people to see the truth of the situation not who is at fault
Yes, to find out the truth of the situation is correct.. But I just wonder does Zhang actually wake up every morning and think she is god like these people think she is? Does she even know or care that my loved one quit her job, quit her school and left her family for her?? My daughter has no money to give her, in fact, she is flat broke. What could Zhang want with my daughter? I’ll compare it to, I’ll say, a scam organization,… The boss of the company knows he’s selling something bogus, fake. He had people sell his product, knowing that it isn’t real, but has some people whi he trusts, know tgat the prioduct is fake. The boss wakes up everyday knowing he’s making money and corrupting his employed who are loyal but are unknowing to the false product. My point is, where is it in the line of the Wmscog are there corrupt or unknowingly innocent believers? How far up in the line do some of these people know they are selling false made up beliefs?? How can someone think so highly of themselves to actually believe they are Christ or God? I just don’t get it?
I somehow feel Cheol is the villain number 1 here. He is the one who knows this is a scam from the outset. It is his scam. Zahng is not entirely innocent but not too clever either. She is just clever enough to know that going along with Cheol's scam is profitable for her. So that is two people at the top who know it is a scam. Further down the line there would be many who have figured that it is a scam but are going with the flow for their own temporal benefit.
What I cannot figure is the people who came in as genuine believers, but have now stopped believing, yet continue with the charade because it suits them. I can't believe they would do it for money unless they have turned into atheists. Otherwise they would have moved on and continued their quest to find the true God.
Then there is the great multitude who continue even after they have doubts because they don't know where to go and whom to trust. These might not directly profit, but would even continue with evangelisation because, somewhere deep within, they are trying to hold on to the hope that their decision was right.
is can't imagne Zangh doesn't know what she is doing, I think they scam together Cheol and her, maybe there are some more people involved. I don't know about the followers, maybe they really believe, (I wonder in what?) or are to afraid to admit they've been fooled, that they keep up the charade.
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