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I would like to start a topic on specific examples of how WMSCOG has hurt family members and/or friends. I don't want bashing on this feed, I just want honest to goodness examples of how this organization has brought pain to you or your family. I am hoping that the members that are exploring this website might stumble across this and see that it is not just their family expressing these concerns…it is all families!
WMSCOG Member – my son
Yesterday I was reviewing our phone bill and saw that my son made a 911 call on Sunday. It threw me a little as he had made a "surprise" visit later that evening and never once mentioned this call. I called him to see why he made the call and he said that he and some "brothers" were in a car accident. I, of course, was very shocked by 1) the fact that he was in an accident and 2) that he didn't even tell his father or me about this accident. I asked him if he was okay and he said yeah, but that his back and neck were really bothering him, but that they seemed to be getting better. He then went on to explain that it was a hit-and-run, but that they chased the car to get the license plate. He called 911 and shortly after cops, fire trucks, and an ambulance showed up. They were told that if they went in the ambulance that the "brother" that was driving's insurance would have to cover and that it would possibly cost quite a bit. The driver was light-headed and felt dizzy. They decided to just drive him to the emergency room instead. He had tests done and then was released. I asked my son how the others were doing and he said they said they were fine, which he did not understand how they could be since he got the least amount of injury out of the ordeal and was the youngest. He said they had to have been a lot sorer than I was, but they said they were fine.
This all reminded me of conversations that I have had with my son in the past where he says that he is protected and nothing bad happens to those that have received Passover. It also seems to fit very closely with the information that we have learned that those that do find themselves in accidents and/or bad positions are there because of something they did wrong.
I am hurt that my son did not call me and tell me what happened. I am sad that when he came to the house, he did not mention a traumatic experience that he had just experienced 3.5 hours before. Why is this information hidden? He says he didn't want to worry us; really, this makes me worry even more! Was the reason more in line with the fact that he told us he would go hiking with us and then cancelled at the last minute because he had so much homework to do…and then instead went somewhere with these "brothers", I'm guessing preaching. So he lied to us that he had homework to do and could not go hiking and spend time with us, when really he was doing something with his brothers. Lying has become a common occurrence in our relationship.
Hi Spectrum. I understand your pain and know that you want your son out. It’s so hard for me to engage in this topic without appearing harsh. Wmscog has caused a lot of pain to many family members – both current and former. Unlike a few, I attended alone and was not comfortable introducing anyone to the church and so when I left I left alone. I don’t have any family member entangled in it. However, I know many people whose family member(s) are lost within its walls. Wives having lost their husbands, husbands having lost their wives, some include a spouse and kids all caught of in that organization. One of the problem with this organization, aside from whether or not they are who they say they are, is the destruction it creates in homes of simple people undeserving of such. It’s a really deep discussion and I pray you get a few to open up. As for me, there were mental confusion for a while and it took months and months of rude awakenings for me to snap out of it. I pray for you and your family.
As for his behaviour, I understand your pain. He feels he is doing the right thing . Is your son a teenager, if you don’t mind my asking?
I really feel for you guys with close family in the wmscog.
It is really hard but it helps a lot in dealing with them if we remember that: 1. they are sincere about what they believe and 2. they are victims themselves.
Wow…. Good plea… You sound Catholic. Are you.
Dear Spectrum. Oh dear. You really sound so genuine.
Thank you, Spectrum, for your beautiful, heartfelt prayer.
Spectrum, I feel your pain as I have a son with this group also. I appreciate you sharing some of your experiences with us.
Perhaps there hasn’t been more response to this thread because some may fear their identity would be revealed through specific examples?
I will say my relationship with my son, since his involvement with this group, has become somewhat distant, as opposed to the closeness we used to share. We also used to share a sense of humor that was fun for us both, but now he tries too hard to be funny and its just not there! ( this may seem trivial to some but it is an example of how his personality has changed and it hurts to see it).
His brother has lost a best friend… They used to do many things together but now when he makes suggestions he is often met with excuses or lies as to why he can’t join him in so many of the the things he used to love to do.
I will have to share more later…..
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Spectrum I pray for you and your son. I know exactly what you are talking about. My relative's involvement in this group is the most gut wrenching, horrific thing that has ever happened to my family. It has nearly destroyed me, literally, and has taken a toll on the rest of the family as well. No more open, honest, conversations with this family member, and he used to be someone we looked to, talked to, about everything of importance. We depended on him, we knew we always could. Personally, he was a rock for me. Now all conversations are superficial, but I am very glad to have even that, as he threatened to shut his family off at one time. He has said and done things as a result of his involvement that have caused so much pain to people I know he loves. Before this group, I think he would have rather cut off his hand than done the things he wound up doing to those he loved.
But I know the guy we all know and love is still in there under all the layers of mind control, and he will leave them eventually. Your son will too! It will happen, so don't lose hope. Believe me, I know the depths of your pain, but it will get better, I know it will. The truth will win in the end. It always does.
Wow…just reading this thread I feel the pain of loving family members. I am so sorry your loved ones are trapped. Please take comfort in knowing that this group is slowly crumbling. They can’t cover up the fact that the real truth is coming out. These liars are being exposed. It may have seemed like an isolated event when Missionary Ron & Deaconess Diane left but that was only the beginning. Please continue praying for the souls tangled up in this false group. God will most definitely hear our prayers & will prevail in dismantling this group.
I keep praying for everyone whose loved ones are trapped. I know my son will come out in the end, but he is so valuable to them due to being one of their highest contributors, that they guard him more closely than others. They have one of the main Koreans monitoring and mentoring him at all times now. This guy and the pastor are his main mentors. It's hard to see that. So hard for him to see the truth when they control his every move.
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