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Many of the members here will take what’s discussed here back to the WMS. This is where one or more people will try to put a spin on whatever’s being discussed. My loved one used to do this all the time. It’s a child like dependency because the member has a hard time thinking for themselves. When the study they are regurgitating turns south on them a thought stopping excuse is made. After the discussion is at a stand still the member either calls for help or goes to the cult. This is called fleeing to Zion. At this point they are usually love bombed again and given more distractions to throw into the discussion or told to avoid the person altogether. When we are debating a WMS member we are probably confronting two or more people at the same time. Check out some of the discussions on this forum and you’ll see what I mean.
Hello Renita & all those who are listening/reading
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in your thoughts and that is excately what they (wmscog) teach. They are changing their story now because the jig is up. We are on to them and they (wmscog) do not want to make waves. They (wmscog) are as sly as a fox and as evil as —- OOPS! am I not to say that? This is what we are talking about! Changing stories, changing prophecies, changing words, changing bible studies. Just like ASH said they are out for power and money. If they truely wanted to save souls then they would follow the laws of the earth as we follow the laws of Heaven. Don't they use that scripture Matthew 16:19 and Hebrews 8:5.
Jubilee wrote:
Shimon, Do you know if any of the winds have been released yet?
Assuming WMC being truth the winds indicate WWIII sparked from the Korean Peninsua therefore they cannot be released. If WMC is not truth then very little I said is relevent.
Joshua wrote:
I do not serve a God of confusion. His ways are mysterious and I don't always understand but I do try and when I pray for clarification God reveals what I need to know. Shimon, your reply is very confusing.
I don't see what is confusing about my reply.
Once again I think you're trying to lead others astray.
Funny how often you say you don't hate me while simultaneously saying things like this.
Shimon how long have you been in the "truth"? Persay?
Jubilee wrote:
Shimon how long have you been in the "truth"? Persay?
First Studdied 23rd March 2010
Baptized since 26 March 2010
What happened in Dec. 2009? Do you remember? Were you a member of wms then?
Not a member in 2009 what should or should not have happened?
We were told that the first wind was released. Because it was right around Christmas and they were preached to but didn't listen and God released the first wind. We have many witnesses of this because it was presented during a sermon.
Being dedicated memeber YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS!!
What about the 2n wind?
I do not know every detail of every event that occured before I was baptized
But, don't you think this is importnt to know? Actually, We were told 3 of the winds have been released and we are waiting for the 4th wind which will bring about the WWIII.
These are things that I am talking about? Every member should be on the same page since you are the body with many parts, how can the body function if it does not work together with the power of the brain/head. Especially dedicated members that give up their whole LIFE.
Come on, you don't see a problem with that? They keep you so busy that you as a Child of God are on a need to know basis only. Isn't God fair and just? Then the "church" should also be a good example and demenstrate the goodness of Christ. yet if you don't jump when they tell you to you don't get to know nothing!!
I am so sorry but the real "Truth" hurts. Does your Deacon know you are eating from the "Tree of knowlegde of Good and evil?"
Just like "wms brother" you will be rebuked when they find out.
Jubilee wrote:
But, don't you think this is importnt to know? Actually, We were told 3 of the winds have been released and we are waiting for the 4th wind which will bring about the WWIII.
These are things that I am talking about? Every member should be on the same page since you are the body with many parts, how can the body function if it does not work together with the power of the brain/head. Especially dedicated members that give up their whole LIFE.
Come on, you don't see a problem with that? They keep you so busy that you as a Child of God are on a need to know basis only. Isn't God fair and just? Then the "church" should also be a good example and demenstrate the goodness of Christ. yet if you don't jump when they tell you to you don't get to know nothing!!
I am so sorry but the real "Truth" hurts. Does your Deacon know you are eating from the "Tree of knowlegde of Good and evil?"
Just like "wms brother" you will be rebuked when they find out.
When were you told the three winds were broken? Also, I was never told they were not broken I assumed they were broken at once but I was never told that I was told "when the four are all broken WWIII will spark and it will mean the 144,000 are chosen"
That is excately what I am talking about! If you don't ask they won't tell you. Do you really need to know? Is it really relevant to your salvation??
YES! OF COURSE IT IS! EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO GOD! BECAUSE GOD IS IMPORTANT TO ME. What about you?
I remember hearing that 1 of the winds were already released. I don't remember which one or any detail other than it was released. I also remember the whole issue with what happened in 70 AD. Jerusalem was surrounded, then not, then surrounded & destroyed. The 1st 2 have been fulfilled. N. Korea bombing S. Korea then no bombing. The next time will be WWIII.
Jubilee wrote:
That is excately what I am talking about! If you don't ask they won't tell you. Do you really need to know? Is it really relevant to your salvation??
YES! OF COURSE IT IS! EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO GOD! BECAUSE GOD IS IMPORTANT TO ME. What about you?
Joshua you are holding everyone is WMC to the standard of perfection that is unreasonable we don't claim every member of WMC is God.
And, that is a lie,
"when the four are all broken WWIII will spark and it will mean the 144,000 are chosen"
see lies, lies, and more lies. Wake up the time of slumber is over! Romans 13:11 snap out of it!!
the 144k are already chosen and from what I have heard are ready. Didn't you watch the video? The sublimanial message put into your brain. FREEDOM OF THE MIND is what I am preaching now!
Yeh I know all about the 70AD prophecy they even made a video about it. Boy, they love those videos. See, how your money is being used.
Only in S. Korea they get all the purks. Here in America and around the world we suffer for the sake of the Gospel.
What about last year after the Passorver did't "mother" make an anouncement to all the churches? Didn't all the members who had the money go out immediately to make sure they had, candles, blankets, food and water for at least 2 to 4 weeks and a backpack next to your bed?
Well, now the food and water is expired just like that anouncement. Oh, was that another test of faith?
Jubilee wrote:
And, that is a lie,
"when the four are all broken WWIII will spark and it will mean the 144,000 are chosen"
see lies, lies, and more lies. Wake up the time of slumber is over! Romans 13:11 snap out of it!!
the 144k are already chosen and from what I have heard are ready. Didn't you watch the video? The sublimanial message put into your brain. FREEDOM OF THE MIND is what I am preaching now!
The 144k are not chosen according to WMC
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