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Many of the members here will take what’s discussed here back to the WMS. This is where one or more people will try to put a spin on whatever’s being discussed. My loved one used to do this all the time. It’s a child like dependency because the member has a hard time thinking for themselves. When the study they are regurgitating turns south on them a thought stopping excuse is made. After the discussion is at a stand still the member either calls for help or goes to the cult. This is called fleeing to Zion. At this point they are usually love bombed again and given more distractions to throw into the discussion or told to avoid the person altogether. When we are debating a WMS member we are probably confronting two or more people at the same time. Check out some of the discussions on this forum and you’ll see what I mean.
you are just being paranoid
Not a single person at WMC knows I have posted on this website only you, Genny, Loopoc, Emily, and whomever else I have replied to or who may be lurking.
The ONLY thing from this site I have mentioned was you saying we say God bless you too much. After me and Genny had already pretty much stopped talking about it at that.
And no we praise in public and chastise in private in my experience.
Joshua wrote:
It looks like you need to revisit that post again.
Can you explain what you mean?
loocpoc wrote:
The reason why I post is because I want someone. I dont really care for the church. I just want one person to see the truth for the idolatry this church is.
I am curious why WMC bothers you more than other churches seeing as they all worship a man from the Jewish perspective.
loocpoc wrote:
Because I see the road she is going down. She is out of work. She has no money. They are forcing her to give offerings and tithes even though they know her situation. Im against the church (not Christianity in general) because it is idolatry in its most basic form by worshipping this lady in Korea.
oh there is a specific person you meant by one person gotcha.
loocpoc wrote:
My other problem is the fact they call themselves "Spiritual Israelites". Just because you follow holidays in a book doesnt make you Jewish. Much like the "Messianic jews", they lost the idea of Judiasm with accepting Yeshua as the savior. Why does G-d need a second time? Whats to happen if G-d needs a 3rd or 4th time?
Actually we call all Christians spiritual Israelites broken into Spiritual Jews and Spiritual Samaritans.
Israelite meaning God's people Jews being those who keep the Covenant and Samaritans being God's people who break the covenant.
What do you consider the religion of Israel under King Jeroboam and his successors?
The Basis for calling us Spiritual Israelites (which a lot of other churches do as well) is the idea that we (or the non Jewish Christians) are not physicaly descended from Israel but remain God's people by Spiritually joining (a few churches would say replacing but that isn't what Paul wrote) through Jesus.
I realize you don't accept Pauls testimony but I am just saying the idea wasn't invented by WMC.
I too disagree with being called a "Spiritual Israelite." I am a Christian and if I were to claim to be any sort of Israelite then I would be putting myself back under the Mosaic law. As a Christian I am living in God's Grace through my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I would not dishonor the Israelites by claiming that I am one of them. As a non-Israelite, or Gentile even if you prefer, I have been grafted into God's family.
Nope you wouldn't be putting yourself under Moasaic law but you are calling Paul a liar.
I most certainly would not want to be acused of calling Paul a liar. Chapter and verse please stating that we are spiritual Israelites. Are you referring to Romans 9? I have read the NT several time but my memory isn't serving me well.
Romans 9 does imply it but more specifically It actually just says we are grafted into Israel. Romans 11:17-24
Thank you.
I am a physical Jew apostate by your.standards perhaps
He destroyed the temple and had rome surround them let nero kill himself so they'd think he was saving them by scaring off the romans then let titus suround them again led them to eat their own children and massacred them yep I know.
So far as I know one right now
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