How Many Gods Does the Bible Testify?

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  • #7013
    Love'n Honey
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    Hello fam! I'm writing up short bible studies so I can be prepared when I finally approach members of the WMSCOG. I'll post them here so you can review them and help me make them better. Because many members won't come to this site, I think it's appropiate to speak from our mouths to them. I'm trying to keep the studies short, sweet, and to the point. It should take no longer than 5 minutes for me to get the point across.

    How Many Gods Does the Bible Testify?

    The WMSCOG preaches there are 2 Gods, the Father and the Mother. They use many verses in the Bible to back up this idea. For every verse they use to prove their side, there is at least one verse which contradicts them. Let us begin with the Hebrew term "Elohim."

    Who is Elohim?

    The direct translation of Elohim is Gods, a plural word. From this word alone, it is implied that there is more than one God. Ge 1:26-27, God (Elohim) uses the terms "us" and "our." If there is only one God, the proper way to describe who created mankind is to use "me" and "my." But because God uses "us" and "our", that means someone created humans along with God the Father. Ge 1:1 says God created the heavens and the earth. Therefore, the "us" in Ge 1:26 applies only to God, not the angels, hosts, or other angelic creatures. From these verses, can we say there is more than one God? Mal 2:10-15 heavily contradicts the claims of the WMSCOG. "Did not one God create us?" (Mal 2:10). You may ask what Hebrew term for "God" was used here. To answer, it is "El" a singular word, not "Elohim." Right away, the Scripture goes against itself saying more than one God created us in Ge 1:26 and saying only one God created us in Mal 2:10. So which is it, Gods or God?

    We (Singular) Are Not the Slightest Bit Pleased

    The use of a plural pronoun to refer to a single person is called the majestic plural. Nosism is the use ot the majestic plural. It illustrates the power and dignity of a particular person or being, singular. The only way for Ge 1:26 and Mal 2:10 to be in harmony with each other is if the God who created mankind is nosistic.

    Shall We (Plural) Worship Other Gods?

    There are many false gods but as we just learned, the Scripture only testifies of one nosistic God who blesses us. Dt 11:16 says be careful not to worship other gods. No matter how many verses or which faulty evidence a false prophets provides us, do not let them "deceive you by fine-sounding arguements." Col 2:4

  • #48945

    Elievalkyrie
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    You are losing me big time! Who's Yeshua? and Miriam? And the Roman legionaire? 

    #48946

    Simon
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    If we are going to deny the virgin birth we may as well just believe Joseph impregnated her.

    #48947

    Simon
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    Yeshua=Jesus in Aramaic Miriam=Mary

    #48948

    KC
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    basically the basic is, this is not about god ANY god.

    wmscog is just using all this religion mumbo jumbo to entice people.

    #48949

    Elievalkyrie
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    Hal, if you are saying that Mary was not a virgin and Jesus is not God, you might as well NOT believe in the Bible. Since the Bible testifies all these things. And since God is the author of the Bible, and it is by His will that it was made known to the world as a guidance., then you might as well NOT believe in GOD.

    #48950

    Simon
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    He only believe in the Tanakh (Old Testament)

    #48951

    Elievalkyrie
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    I would tell you, Mr. Hebrew Dictionary,  that KNOWLEDGE doesn't mean WISDOM.

    #48952

    Elievalkyrie
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    I'd suggest you make up your mind of either believing the Bible or not. You did not live on their times. You were not there. No matter how many books you read and no matter how many languages you speak, just like us YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT REALLY TRANSPIRED BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT THERE. So it really just go back to the question, do you believe in the Bible or not? 

    By the way, I know Almah is used for young women who are at a marriageble age. That Almah would either be a Betulah or not. But calling her Almah does not necessarily mean that she's not a Betulah.

    #48953

    Love'n Honey
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    Hal, what does almah mean?

    #48954

    Elievalkyrie
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    Renita, from what I understand. Almah is used for young women who reached a certain marriageble age. If that marriable girl (ALMAH) did not yet have sex prior to her marriage then you could say she's a betulah (virgin). Am I right Mr. Hebrew Dictionary?

    #48955

    KC
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    i do suggest you guys pay attention and remember that this site is about the examining the wmscog, as in for building more awareness about wmscog, its not about examining christianity or a field to contest who is the better bible or torah thumper.

    you know who might be watching.

    #48956

    Love'n Honey
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    Wait! So she was between 18 and 20?? I was taught she was a very young girl…. like 15. Or was that just in the movie?

    #48957

    Elievalkyrie
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    In modern times, a marriable age starts at the age of 18 years. In ancient times, it starts at the age of 12 or 13 years.

    #48958

    genny
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    In old times, it was normal for women to get married younger, so 'marriageable age' then might have been something like 15.

    #48959

    Love'n Honey
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    Is there an age limit to who can be a soldier? Like 50 is the cut off? I’m asking becauseMS Christians portray Joseph as an old man..

    #48960

    genny
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    renita.payno wrote:

    Is there an age limit to who can be a soldier? Like 50 is the cut off? I'm asking becauseMS Christians portray Joseph as an old man..

    I don't think that's a standard mainstream Christian thing.  I see him portrayed as a younger man, like in the Nativity movie.

    #48961

    Simon
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    Most Christians I know believe he was older.

    #48962

    Simon
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    where does the 18 come from?

    #48963

    Love'n Honey
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    So, are you implying that matthew, mark, and luke lied when they recorded an angel spoke to joseph and mary?

    #48964

    Love'n Honey
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    It was recorded that she said that. Did may write a book in the new testament?

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