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Hello fam! I'm writing up short bible studies so I can be prepared when I finally approach members of the WMSCOG. I'll post them here so you can review them and help me make them better. Because many members won't come to this site, I think it's appropiate to speak from our mouths to them. I'm trying to keep the studies short, sweet, and to the point. It should take no longer than 5 minutes for me to get the point across.
How Many Gods Does the Bible Testify?
The WMSCOG preaches there are 2 Gods, the Father and the Mother. They use many verses in the Bible to back up this idea. For every verse they use to prove their side, there is at least one verse which contradicts them. Let us begin with the Hebrew term "Elohim."
Who is Elohim?
The direct translation of Elohim is Gods, a plural word. From this word alone, it is implied that there is more than one God. Ge 1:26-27, God (Elohim) uses the terms "us" and "our." If there is only one God, the proper way to describe who created mankind is to use "me" and "my." But because God uses "us" and "our", that means someone created humans along with God the Father. Ge 1:1 says God created the heavens and the earth. Therefore, the "us" in Ge 1:26 applies only to God, not the angels, hosts, or other angelic creatures. From these verses, can we say there is more than one God? Mal 2:10-15 heavily contradicts the claims of the WMSCOG. "Did not one God create us?" (Mal 2:10). You may ask what Hebrew term for "God" was used here. To answer, it is "El" a singular word, not "Elohim." Right away, the Scripture goes against itself saying more than one God created us in Ge 1:26 and saying only one God created us in Mal 2:10. So which is it, Gods or God?
We (Singular) Are Not the Slightest Bit Pleased
The use of a plural pronoun to refer to a single person is called the majestic plural. Nosism is the use ot the majestic plural. It illustrates the power and dignity of a particular person or being, singular. The only way for Ge 1:26 and Mal 2:10 to be in harmony with each other is if the God who created mankind is nosistic.
Shall We (Plural) Worship Other Gods?
There are many false gods but as we just learned, the Scripture only testifies of one nosistic God who blesses us. Dt 11:16 says be careful not to worship other gods. No matter how many verses or which faulty evidence a false prophets provides us, do not let them "deceive you by fine-sounding arguements." Col 2:4
Good and to the point Renita. I would also count up how often God uses "us" and "our"–it's really only a few times in the whole Bible, but the wmscog makes it sound like it happens all over the place. You might also mention that Elohim, when referring to the one true God, uses singular verbs, which we don't notice in the English translations.
They already have a response to the singular verbs unfortunatly
Is the word elohim used anywhere in the bible to describe a woman? I know Moses, Aaron, and a few others are labeled elohim, but is there even one instance of the word used on a female?
Simon wrote:
They already have a response to the singular verbs unfortunatly
What is their response?
Moses was told to hide the mystery and use singular verbs and only reveal it in the vague sense with the occasional use of Elohim…
I mean obvious nonsense to us, maybe still use it of course but unfortunately even if they believe us they might still be further deceived after going to someone.
Simon, is there scripture they use to back up that Moses and the singuar verbs tale?
deductive reasoning is used there.
God is too humble to call himself by royal title 😛 lol that's what they had me convinced
renita.payno wrote:
I think they said eloah is the female word for god. Hal, is it?
Renita, hebrew4christians.com says "eloah is the singular (or dual) of elohim and appears more than 70 times in the tanakh…"
Ah, it did say that it was used outside of Job in reference to pagan deities as well. Thanks for clearing that up Hal.
what about saying father of David?
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