[Hurt]

Hello, I am new to the forum as a membrler but I came across this site a couple months ago after my family member joined and I did research on wmscog. I don’t want to be to detailed or long, but I am going through the same thing as a family member that I’ve read other family members are going through. The thing is all I read are ex member comments or family members who still have a family member in the group. I haven’t came across an ex member who has shared his/her actual story and how their relationship with their loved ones are now or I haven’t come across a family member whose member came out and now they continue to have a relationship with this ex member today even if they are still recovering. The point I’m making is that I’m hopeless and helpless. And I’m sure many have and are dealing with this and I’m not saying I am special but it sucks is an understatement. I don’t have much family and it feels like I have lost this person and that they are dead. I know that this person is making their own choices and that if they are happy, it shouldn’t affect me, but it’s hard to come to terma when this person can’t fit you in their life and when they are financially instable just to spend more time with this cult. This family member is ADDICTED and also in a somewhat abusive relationship as has been discussed. The thing is, no one answers on HOW do you deal or handle to an ADDICT or a person who won’t leave an abusive relationship. My family member joined on her own will as many do; she was preached at on our college campus. And the advice I have gotten, is that she will leave on hher own. I understand that you can’t help a person who doesn’t want to be helped, but how do I approach this. Ive obviously been doing what is not advised, kind of treating her bad and pushing her away. Our guardian has also been affected and treats her much worse because she is so hurt by this. But even when I try to be objective but stern especially about money situation, my family member twist my words and tries to make me look like a bad guy. My family membet claims to not care about money but is really cheap and greedy and gets annoyed when reminded about the financial responsibilities she owes. Also, our guardian, behind my back, has given this person money in order to pay rent despite hating the group and being hurt by this family member. Our guardian hid this from me and I feel ENABLED my family member’s addiction. The reason my family member didn’t have money, was because she didn’t have a job for the longest. This is one of the reasons she joined in the first place. She got fired from her job. Also, this family member was in a short lived abusive relationship and was very naive and believed what this other person would say; it was only until an incident happened between me and the abuser that she took action, but there were numerous incidences before this, and she stayed or got back together and didnt even like him that much, and even hid it from me. No one knows of this relationship but me. It’s hard. Ive been to a psychologist and they werent really help. They were and werent. Ive seen some of Hassan’s stuff and he first advises to get your shit together before trying to make an intervention. Which makes sense. The psychologist also told me to focus on myself. I do come across as miserable and angry with this family member which I. know pushes her more and more away and probably makes her think I need ASH more than anything. The thing is, we are going to officially go our separate ways soon because we won’t be living together. Im just afraid my family member will be in this forever. Im just sad okay. And I know I need to change my tactic and focus on myself, but Im just afraid that wont change anything. How did you leave? Did you have family members pushing you further, what did this cause in you? Please I need stories, I need hope.

[UntouchableJ]

[UntouchableJ]

Well one thing is for sure, their Prophecy where they claim the Angel in Rev.7 is ASH is flawed. The scripture clearly says, Angel, not God. It amazes me, WMS claims ASH is; God, Isaac, Thr Holy Spirit, Elijah, Gabriel, Jesus, Melkizedek and the Angel holding back WW3.

[Abhigail Delema]

<">UntouchableJ As per their teachings,their double edge sword Gen 19:1-2 Angels also refer to god.It would be nice if you could put some view on this if possible.God appeared in the form of an Angel.

[UntouchableJ]

I have heard them compare the Angels that were with God in Abrahams story, as the example. But even they teach later, that God was accompanied by two Angels.