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The Bible is the Word of God! Do you believe in the Bible? Is the Bible Gods truth od not? These are all things that have been asked of me from several World Mission Society Church of God Missionaries, Deacons, and Members. Why is it still that these folks who claim to follow all of Gods word obviously miss the fact that Ahn predicted the second coming of Jesus Christ back in the sixties and again for 1988? Niether of these times held true! The Bible states that no man will know the time of the Lords return. What it does say is that he will return the way he left and when he returns every eye will behold him. There will be no doubt that Jesus has returned. The Bible also says that false prophets will predict things and they will not come true. Ahn's predictions did not come true! There is no mystery here! Ahnsahnghong was a false prophet.
Can you provide a legible citation for that. It seems unlikely he would write in a book that Jesus is here and later to prophesy he will come in the future.
I have looked online about how He prophesied Christ's return in 1988. I haven't looked on here yet. However, I have found no "proof" that He said this except a member agreed, saying, yes He did predict Christ's return in 1988. Then she said it had something to do with the prophecy of Jonah. I haven't had that study. I actually haven't read the story about Jonah. So, I have no idea about this. I don't want to look into non-believers content until I have had that study. That way I can get all the verses & how the COG explains everything in detail. While reading about some of what the COG teaches through your eyes, some points & verses are excluded. So, before I looked into what you say the COG says, I want to hear what they say 1st hand. But, I thought I'd just add that part about Jonah.
I asked about this profesy of ahn predicitng the world coming to an end in 1988 and most members said that they never herd of it, but I asked the pastor and what he said was that it was a spiritual prediction of jonah. He said that he took the study off because it was a long time ago and that prof. was already passed.
Ahn's church did predict the end of the world in 1988 according to their flyers they handed out. i have a copy of one if anyone would like to see it, just PM me your e-mail addy.
king34:
We learn about many prophecies that have already been fulfilled. Why not the prophecy of Jonah? That doesn't make any sense.
Joshua:
My Missionary has always been very aggrevated (for lack of a better word) when it came time to study with me. I questioned everything she said & took extensive notes. I reviewed them later & if something didn't make sense, I would call or text her about it right away. I would even ask another member the same question to see if I would get the same answer. So trust me, I don't study with them with my eyes closed. Even when I preach, if it sounds like it's my own interpretation, I search earnestly for a direct verse to back what I'm saying. There have been times the COG has said something that sounded like an interpretation rather than fact backed by Scripture. I am skeptical of Zion but even more skeptical of every other church I have come across.
About this Jonah study, my Deaconess decided not have this study with me. She said she would study with me about the 2,300 day Prophecy. I spent over an hour on the bus & walked in the rain to get to Zion so I can have this study. The Deaconess & I talked for about an hour & guess what.. she decided not to have the study with me! Why? Because I don't fully believe in Ahnsahnghong. I left Zion a little more than pissed that day & haven't been back since. But I still study with one of my Brothers because like I said in another post, I love the teaching. But don't tell me we're going to do something then change your mind after I went through the trouble to meet you where you are!! People say, Father did the same thing. Well, how upset do you think He was?? What makes you think you can cancel plans on your Sister like the gentiles did to God??? That just pissed me off all over again.
I wish there were a good answer to that one I have to actually sort of agree with Joshua here. But we must be careful about getting angry, not so much for those who upset us but for our own self.
I feel really guilty having typed that sentence though so I realize I certainly need to work on that myself, probably more than you.
I understand completely which is why I tried not to show how truly upset I was; I left with a smile. I talk to my Brother on the ship about a lot of personal things. Things I probably wouldn't say out loud to Mother even though I believe She already knows. When I get upset, it really makes my day sorrowful. But it seems like the more I try to stay joyful always in situations where I'm really hurt inside, the more upset I get about it later because anger is not the fruit of the Spirit. I am my own worst critic; I persecute myself more than anyone else does & I do it daily. This is why I want to see hard proof. I know I don't have the faith of a mustard seed. But how do you give someone faith?? I want to believe but I just don't because of situations like that & websites like these. Do we go to Zion for other people? No…… but that doesn't mean other people don't influence my thoughts & feelings.
renita.payno wrote:
I understand completely which is why I tried not to show how truly upset I was; I left with a smile. I talk to my Brother on the ship about a lot of personal things. Things I probably wouldn't say out loud to Mother even though I believe She already knows. When I get upset, it really makes my day sorrowful. But it seems like the more I try to stay joyful always in situations where I'm really hurt inside, the more upset I get about it later because anger is not the fruit of the Spirit. I am my own worst critic; I persecute myself more than anyone else does & I do it daily. This is why I want to see hard proof. I know I don't have the faith of a mustard seed. But how do you give someone faith?? I want to believe but I just don't because of situations like that & websites like these. Do we go to Zion for other people? No…… but that doesn't mean other people don't influence my thoughts & feelings.
God allows you to go through stuggles now so you can see your own faults instead of grumbling against yourself pray to God thanking him for accepting you as a daughter as you are and allowing you the chance to shed your sinful nature. (Not sure if I explained that well) Nothing God allows to happen is for any reason but our salvation.
Noone has enough faith in God if we truly had faith we'd never sin or break Mother's teachings that's why I personnally pray for more faith in and and understanding of truth.
One thing is believing in God in Flesh is always difficult, believing an all powerful all knowing being would humble himself to us is unfathomable, if Father came even as someone like Bill Gates rich and in Luxery that is sitll coming as a worm compared to God but to come as someone lower than us makes it more challenging.
But I realize if I were a father I would probably do very similar things for my children and I am sure you would do for yours and if we are in God's image and likeness so would God. So how can we say our Father who is perfect and would not put sinful pleasure ahead of what is right would not?
shimon:
Thank you. I do believe every situation is for my salvation. I need to change. We all do. If anyone claims they don't need to be more gentle, more kind, more loving, more patient, etc. then that person is a liar. Salong-amida!! =)
BUMP!! For all those people wondering about my last day at Zion, I explained it here. This thread explains my frustration as a member and how I sought guidance from Zion (like 144,000 and FTOS kept suggesting) but still didn't receive it. Deaconess Deborah knew she lost me. That's why she let me go. I didn't hear from her after that.
You can also see how different Simon and I were. We were so gentle and loving in our messages. Now I just don't give a #%@! lol!
Lol Renita honestly is far better than phoney Korean” I love you” to strangers
Joshua wrote:
The Bible is the Word of God! Do you believe in the Bible? Is the Bible Gods truth od not?
now when I show you (the places in the Bible that I wish to show you)….
way too easy. no one ever sees it as a psychological setup.
AND
when you're told to keep your eye on the ball, chances are that's exactly what you'll do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
Simon wrote:
Lol Renita honestly is far better than phoney Korean" I love you" to strangers
Tru Dat!
As it turns out, most koreans are phoney. They don't have to be in a sect.
Really? So.. should I be cautious of my daughter's Tae Kwon Do instructor?
Definitely! Why do you think they have such good dramas?
It's cuz they're very good at pretending.
And they never break character 😀
I personally find it fascinating and a bit scary at the same time.
Sounds like racist nonsense
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