End of the world again….

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  • #7407
    searchingfortruth
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    Hello,

    I have been told by a MSCOG member , yesterday 6/19/2013 they needed to have an emergencyservice because Mother says that this is the year the New Jerusalem will be completed. Meaning the world will end this year. Does anyone know how this is possible? The bible states in Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Here is the complete passage: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of theearth mourn , and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power andgreat glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other . 32 Now learnparable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know thatsummer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even atthe doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass , till all these things be fulfilled .35 Heaven and earth shall pass away , but my words shall not pass away . 36 But of that day andhour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days ofNoe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be . 38 For as in the days that were beforethe flood they were eating and drinking , marrying and giving in marriage , until the day that Noeentered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came , and took them all away ; so shall alsothe coming of the Son of man be . 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken , andthe other left .

  • #63277

    Disturbed
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    God my love wrote:

    My friend, today one of my friend phone me. I was really surprised his wife told him from today onwards we are not in relation we must be separate. You go your way and I will go my way because you don't believe in Elohim god. How could this happen how could she leave him. Is what god teach us I don't know that she is doing right. God please help that couple if wife can't love his husband then how could she love her neighbor as god command. So there are many things to say and explain. God Bless Every one

     

    Please pray for your friend and his spouse. The wife will be full of regret when she realizes she's been duped and left her husband behind all of this nonsense. God Bless you.

    #63278

    jellybean
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    There are couple of prophets in the Bible that their wives did not believe in the God of Abraham and the husband did not left them starting with Sarah who they love to talk and teach so much. Please do not be fooled and let your marriage be destroyed by human’s religion. If you really love someone you do not make them choose between their spirituality and you. Work it out and if your Pastor doesnt like it who cares? Who are they to tell you who to marry and who to divorce. Stop letting these people control your life.I am so over hearing this type of issues in the WMSCOG.

    #63279

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    jellybean wrote:

    There are couple of prophets in the Bible that their wives did not believe in the God of Abraham and the husband did not left them starting with Sarah who they love to talk and teach so much. Please do not be fooled and let your marriage be destroyed by human's religion. If you really love someone you do not make them choose between their spirituality and you. Work it out and if your Pastor doesnt like it who cares? Who are they to tell you who to marry and who to divorce. Stop letting these people control your life.I am so over hearing this type of issues in the WMSCOG.

     Sarah did not believe in the God of Abraham? Where does it say that?

    #63280

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    either way, debating biblically we will likely get nowhere.  jellybean, if you could address the actual social controls that get people to allow others to influence their marriages and divorces and the high correllation to abuse?

    they believe because others believe.  adding to the societal problem, people look to their environment for confirmation, not to question.  when people question, they are in misery.  the saying should be changed from "misery loves company" to "misery loves similar company".  when they question they'll just go back to the same place where the misery began.  its a vicious cycle.  that's why I believe that its not the doctrine, its the control systems and thinking about it will stick, even though they go back.

    #63281

    searchingfortruth
    Participant

    Check this website out. 

     

    http://watv.org/

    #63282

    Stained
    Participant

    jellybean wrote:

    There are couple of prophets in the Bible that their wives did not believe in the God of Abraham and the husband did not left them starting with Sarah who they love to talk and teach so much. Please do not be fooled and let your marriage be destroyed by human's religion. If you really love someone you do not make them choose between their spirituality and you. Work it out and if your Pastor doesnt like it who cares? Who are they to tell you who to marry and who to divorce. Stop letting these people control your life.I am so over hearing this type of issues in the WMSCOG.

     Amen.

    #63283

    Stained
    Participant

    searchingfortruth wrote:

    Check this website out. 

     

    http://watv.org/

     Stay off there.  Don't let them Harvest the I.P.'s . 

    #63284

    Disturbed
    Participant

    Stained wrote:

    searchingfortruth wrote:

    Check this website out. 

     

    http://watv.org/

     Stay off there.  Don't let them Harvest the I.P.'s . 

     The website isnt new. It's been around a while. They even have it in english.

    #63285

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I go to usa.watv.org to get my proof of what they teach. It used to be english.watv.org. I wonder why they changed it.

    #63286

    Simon
    Participant

    renita.payno wrote:

    jellybean wrote:

    There are couple of prophets in the Bible that their wives did not believe in the God of Abraham and the husband did not left them starting with Sarah who they love to talk and teach so much. Please do not be fooled and let your marriage be destroyed by human's religion. If you really love someone you do not make them choose between their spirituality and you. Work it out and if your Pastor doesnt like it who cares? Who are they to tell you who to marry and who to divorce. Stop letting these people control your life.I am so over hearing this type of issues in the WMSCOG.

     Sarah did not believe in the God of Abraham? Where does it say that?

    She certainly believed in him she talked to him directly in Genesis 18 

    #63287

    Simon
    Participant

    renita.payno wrote:

    I go to usa.watv.org to get my proof of what they teach. It used to be english.watv.org. I wonder why they changed it.

    both have existed for as long as I was aware of the watv site

    #63288

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I had never heard of usa.watv. One day I typed english.watv and my browser said "Do you mean usa.watv?"

    #63289

    Simon
    Participant

    strange I have gone to both (been on both today to double check even)

    #63290

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    Simon wrote:

    strange I have gone to both (been on both today to double check even)

    Maybe it was just my browser. Explorer won't even open on my lappy top anymore. I have to use Chrome and I must say I do enjoy it. =)

    #63291

    jellybean
    Participant

    She did not believed in everything God said because when she heard that she was going to have a child with her husband she did not believed it. Abraham didnt left her because she did not believe. Her faith starts when she finds out about her pregnancy. However the fact that someone doesnt have your same ideas about a Patriarch or Matriarch God should not affect marriage. The problem starts when the members stop dedicating their time to their relationship and let the church activities overlap family activities. They start seeing that as a big sin, to spend time with the wife/husband or children. A whole day in the kids room is not time that you are spending with your kids just saying.

    #63292

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I found an old friend!! We hung out last night and tried to do as much catching up as we could. She told me some things that really angered me about my group leader in Santee Zion. She also confirmed my thoughts about why she stopped talking to me. She, just like everyone else, said I changed into this "F*ck the world. It's all about F&M" type attitude.

    #63293

    Smurf
    Participant

    Having little faith and not believing as a whole are two completely different things. Don't mix em up.

    The passage in the bible where she laughs is not sufficient to conclude that she does not believe in the God of Abraham!

    STOOOOOP TWISTING VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERSES!!! YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF!! IT'S NOT A GUEST BOOK WHERE YOU CAN LEAVE OPINIONS!

     

     

     

    ok, i'm calm now…

    #63294

    emil
    Participant

    Hey Smurf. Cut jellybean some slack friend. You do not know what her situation is. I sense she has her own spouse trapped in there.

    Jellybean, I believe the better example would be Hosea and his prostitute wife. Despite all the sinful things she did, he stayed faithful to her.

    #63295

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    Its about the controls, not the doctrine.  they may appear to be the same but they are not.  address the controls and do it in a way so as to not be attacking the group.

    #63296

    Love'n Honey
    Participant

    I don't think Smurf's attacking Jellybean. I think he's just frustrated with people reading into verses in a way that is misleading regardless of who's doing it. This I can completely understand. I got really upset with my instructor when he told the class 2:1 is equivalent to 1:2. I literally told him he was leading people astray. Really? Who says that..??

    I was thinking, and I'm totally sorry about going way off topic, but on the ride to work today I recalled my Missionary explaining how we weren't allowed to do business with brothers and sisters. Was anyone else told the same?

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