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[emil]

[emil]

144000 wrote:

All you readers, notice the goalpost shifting. Notice how, when our reasonable behaviour is explained over the simple topic of welcoming newcomers, they attempt to:

Shift blame and attention away from our concern:

"You surely are aware of the attacks against this website?"

You mentioned hacking first. I am merely pointing out that you guys have done more hacking of other sites than have been done to you. How have I shifted a goalpost?

Shift blame as if threatening our individual members is acceptable because we testify about news, history, and bible prophecy:

"Surely you are aware of how the wmscog shares misinformation about the Catholic and Protestant churches?"

Again, you mentioned how we share public information. Public information is PUBLIC so in all likelihood, TRUE. On the other hand you guys do not hesitate to share sladerous information that is patently false. On this very website, your entire interpretation of Dan 2, 7 and Rev has been shown up to be historically wrong. It has been shown how you guys have twisted history to fit your own interpretation of biblical prophecy. You guys ran away from the thread instead of discussing it. Yet you do not hesitate to slander with false information. If you suggest that it is wrong to share public information (obviously true), how is it shifting goalposts when I point out your sharing fake interpretation?

And finally misrepresenting rare to nonexistant scenarios, again in an attempt to shift attention and blame:

"critics of your church were physically attacked"

There are only two times ina  variety of Zions were I've ever even heard of physical violence on our part, both involved somebody trying to rush the pastor in the middle of service and they had to be "escorted" outside.

Our Church as a whole does not ever "attack" people, we do not condone attacking people, and will actively rebuke or turn in anyone who is breaking the law or being violent. I,  nor anyone I know, has EVER even HEARD of us attacking somebody else. It is nonexistant, and if somehow I was simply unaware of an isolated incident, you can see how grossly exagerrated emil's statement is.

There are reports of your members attacking picketers and attacking a Korean editor who wrote a book about your church. The latter is corroborated in a court case in Korea. Both didn't happen as a reaction to any provocation inside your church. My statement is meant to show you that everything you blame us for, you have done far worse. It is not any shift of the goalposts nor a shift to another game. I am using your own standard of judging others and showing you the log in your own eye.

I respond to you point-by-point addressing each of your remarks but all you do is brush it away with your "shifting the goalposts" one-size-fits-all solution.

So can see how the people of this website continue to misrepresent information and beat around the bush, villifying us over the plain and simple topic of "can anyone come to study"? That is how eager they are to start arguments, theres two sides to every story, and theese people are deliberately leaving out the other half when they try to "help" you.

Theese people use the tiniest fault they can dig up, in even the smallest numbers, omit any details as it pleases them, and then pretend that it applies to our whole Church.

Are theese people rational, or even sane?

Bravo! Nice emotional appeal to your visiting members. Let us see the true situation. Anyone can post here regardless of whether they are wmscog members or not. You can have your say and respond intelligently to any claim, true or false, that may be made here. Admin never moderates based on whether he agrees with the poster or not. Post are only removed for advertising SPAM or if they are abusive. So, as any unbiased visitor will notice, wmscog members have full latitude to express their own beliefs here without censorship.

Can that be said for the proliferating sites put up by wmscog members? Would you see even one negative comment allowed on these websites? I happen to know some of your websites where a critics post is kept out of view, pending for moderation until a suitable response is available with the site owner. If the owner cannot respond in a suitable way, he will keep it pending permanently.

The contrast is obvious. While this site is open to opposing views, your own people suppress opposing views, fearing that it will allow members to arrive at the truth. You are the ones deliberately leaving out the other half.