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As many of us may be well aware, one of the first bible studies new comers receive is "Jerusalem Mother". Through this "study" the wmscog try to prove the existance of a "God the Mother" in the bible. However, I am here to prove she does not exist, with that same bible study. There is certain verses as well as a certain order of them used to try and prove that there is a female God as well as a Male God. They claim Jerusalem "Mother" is the only way to life. I will disprove the wmscog's whole study, with just the first two verses they use.
The first verse is Galations 4:28
Through this verse the wmscog explain that there is a promise given to God's children and we must know what this promise is to inherent the kingdom of heaven. There is a problem with this, and it is that this verse is taken completely out of context. The Apostle Paul explains what he means and what he's reffering to in the previous verses. When we read the entire context, we will see that we already know the promise. We don't need to go looking in all the wrong places. Paul says "Now you brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are the children of promise." Note that he is already telling them they are the children of promise without using other verses or refferences outside the story of Hagar and Sarah. He is not telling them things like "We must know this promise to be saved, let's go over here to find it". No one came to Isaac and tried to explain to Him how he can be a child promise. He was BORN with a promise. In other words, born by the Spirit and not by the flesh. Paul is basically saying to the church in Galatia by using the story of Hagar and Sarah, that they were born by the power of the Spirit(Which is like being born through Sarah) see Gal. 4:21-24.
Paul is in no way explaining or teaching about there being a mother god in these verses.
The wmscog use 1 John 2:25 to explain what the promise is mentioned in Gal. 4:28. Yet another verse taken out of context. Let's see it, but be sure to notice that John is warning us about "antichrists". How ironic huh?
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
Do you see what John is saying? This in no way connects to there being any mother. In fact, John is warning us not to be led astray because we know the truth and no one needs to teach us. Jesus Himself said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." What all the people heard from the beginning is that Jesus is the truth and the only way to life, and there is no other way. We must remain in the Son who has given us the promise of eternal life. It's not some secret. And if you say "What about in the OT where it says there is no other savior but Jehova the Father" I can explain that too. In another thread, I'll kindly explain how there is no contradiction if you wish.
Do you now see how ridiculous it is to believe this wmscog study? It's verses taken out of context thrown together in the best order to attempt an explanation about there being a God the mother. If you continue to insist there is a god the mother after this, you are in denial. Look, there is NO god the mother. I can debunk the rest of the verses used in this study, but I don't think I have to. This should be enough. If you wish for me to continue proving how foolish this study is, I certainly will.
ContexT includes time and audienceJohn told THEM they already knew. not usalso from paul we understand there is a need for teachers
Also they don’t use the verse to prove a mother god but that christianity is about salvation
I wonder if going really slow and reviewing such basic basic doctrine opens the mind to brain washing though
Thanks Serg I also study Jerusalem Mother more than Thousand times while I was a member. but realize later after many years which they twisted the scripture. there are many error in their chapter Jerusalem Mother I can also point out many things. the whole preaching book contain fault and anti bible. Just showing Three verse (us) they claim about male and female image of god.
Iss 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
Iss 40:25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.
Iss 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Iss 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Iss 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
There are hundreds of Verse that shows Only one god
has anyone had the DNA study?
renita.payno, In (2013) our sermon we were taught about DNA focus on mt.dna (Mother's DNA). In the sermon Missionary told Mt.DNA is only found in mother yes but while serching in the internet I also knew Mitochondria DNA is also found in men's SPERM too.
How exactly does the wmscog use the fact of mitochondrial DNA to push their agenda?
they mean to say as mt. dna is found in only mother womb for reproduction which protect the baby to born. As they said in sermon. and connect to John chapter 6: 52-54 as do always. I am very much familer with WMSCOG I have been there for many years I can't explain more because my eyes get full of tears.
I fail to understand how mtDNA is connected with Jn 6:54-56
i was asking about DNA in the blood stream. physically to determine paternity/maternity you have to undergo a dna test.
emil wrote:
I fail to understand how mtDNA is connected with Jn 6:54-56
I fail to understand how any of their doctrine is connected to the bible period 😉
Here's my take on the explanation of Gal 4:26. Took me a whole hour to piece together everything I had already researched and highlited.
NLT [New Living Translation] says:
–But the other woman, Sarah, represents the heavenly Jerusalem. She is the free woman, and she is our mother.
The fact that it says "the other woman" means there are 2 women being described. When we read from v24 it says:
–These two women serve as an illustration of God's two covenants. The first woman, Hagar, represents Mount Sinai where people received the
law that enslaved them.
When I was reading the NIV, it doesn't say, "the other woman" but it does describe how Hagar represents the Old Cov't. If you keep reading without taking into mind that there must be an explanation for Sarah, one might think that Gal 4:26 was written independently from v24. This makes the passage appear to be incomplete, leaving it up to us to figure out what Sarah represents. But the NLT makes it plain that v26 is describing the other woman, Sarah, who was mentioned in v23.
–The son of the slave wife was born in a human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God's promise. But the son of the freeborn wife was born as God's own fulfillment of His promise.
The 1st part, "the son of the slave wife was born in a human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God's promise" describes perfectly the OT Law. A. Paul explains that it is impossible for the OT Law to cleanse us from our sin [Heb 10:1-4]. Keeping with the OT Law is a "human attempt to bring about the fulfillment of God's promise." Now, the 2nd part, "but the son of the freeborn wife was born as God's own fulfillment of his promise" describes the New Cov't just as perfectly. When Jesus, God Himself, came as the sacrifice for our sins we are cleansed completely [Heb 10:5-10]. Jesus dying on the cross and establishing the NT Cov't, to love one another [John 13:34-35], is "God's own fulfillment of His promise." So, why is Sarah described as the heavenly Jerusalem, mother of us all? When you read about Jerusalem, it is described as a place where the water of life flows from:
— On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter [Zech 14:8]
I believe Ash was dead on about mating verses. There are 2 verses I know of that speak about the same temple, water, and life of some sort:
— Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God [i.e. Jerusalem] and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. [Rev 22:1-5]
— On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east
to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter [Zech 14:6-8]
Think about the nature of a mother compared to that of a father. In my arguably humble opinion the OT shows the strong hand of our Father. In a traditional home, the father, or man of the household, is the provider, protector, and disciplinary figure. Throughout the entire OT you see God, our Father, providing for the Isrealites in the desert, protecting Daniel and his friends in the furnace, and disciplining those who disobeyed Him. However, in the NT, there is a complete change in attributes of God. He established a New Cov't that carries the nature of a mother which is love and life. I believe this is why A. Paul wrote that the Sarah, who represents the New Cov't, the heavenly Jerusalem, is described as our mother. When we learn to love one another in Christ we fulfill the law [Rom 13:8-10], thus receiving God's sanctified promise of eternal life [John 15:5-7; 1 John 2:24-25].
As I read this I get the idea that the New Cov't is the representation of the motherly side of God's character. Nicely done Renita!
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