Commandment # 5

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  • #6988
    KF
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     What father & mother is the 5th commandment refering to. Our physical parents? or is this spiritual? anyone know???? which ever answer you give me, please give me proof of it, not just your opinion, this is very important for me to know. Thank you!

    Exodus 20

    New International Version (NIV)

     

    The Ten Commandments

    20 And God spoke all these words:

     

    I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

    You shall have no other gods before me.

    You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

    You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

    Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

    “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

    You shall not murder.

    You shall not commit adultery.

    You shall not steal.

    You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

    You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

     

  • #48389

    Love'n Honey
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    The COG says it referring to your physical parents because everything was physical then. Slaughtering the PO lamb, being sentenced to physical death for prostitution. But when jesus came to fulfill the law, everything is to be taken spiritual. Jesus is the spiritual lamb so we eat and drink his blood spiritually through the PO. There will be spiritual death for anyone who commits spiritual prostition which is to attend another church to seek their god. Because now everything is spiritual that commandment refers to our spiritual parents.

    I can see how that makes sense which is why I believe if we are children of god and we call god father we must call god mother as well. I have no arguement against the idea that god is both our father and our mother GIVEN that god has a gender.

    #48390

    KF
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    Wow, you explained that so well….I can see what your saying, however it still leaves me with this question if : 

    Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

    was physical back then, but is spirtual now, it seems as though a third party is speaking, do you understand what I'm pointing out.  And is… so that you may live long in the the land your God is giving you….is this refering to eternal life? I hope I did not confuse you with this question.

    Renita, so is the other 9 commandments  spiritual? or Physical?

    #48391

    Love'n Honey
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    I can see how it seems there’s a 3rd party. “The land your god is giving you” implies that someone who is not the lord is speaking. If I remember correctly Moses is the one speaking these words. So yes, there is a 3rd party and that it moses. As far as the physical land the lord is giving, that it canaan. But the spiritual land the lord is giving is heaven. According to the teaching of the COG, every commandment has spiritual meaning.

    #48392

    KF
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    no not so….look!  

    20 And God spoke all these words:

    moses wrote them on the tablets..lol

    ok so if every commandment according to them is spiritual, then why be in Zion Physically, and God said remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. no work on that day, so why my friend says they go preaching all day sabbath and sometimes he's really tired, i thought you were suppose to rest on that day.

     

     

     

    #48393

    Love'n Honey
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    Well, I always read it as god told moses to them blah, blah, blah.. but I guess god said, “the land your lord will give you” implying that god isn’t the lord.

    Why be in zion physically? Well, I know when I’m around people who are wreckless I tend to do wreckless things. When I’m at my grandmas house I tend to act like the perfect angel she sees me as. The more we are in zion physically the less likely we are going to commit sin against god.

    The OT regulation of the sabbath are obselete* as the scripture says. The day hasn’t change but how to keep it has. Jesus said to the saducees who questioned him for working (healing) on the sabbath “what is good? To save life or to destroy it?” Something along those lines. Since we are to save lives spiritually, preaching to those who haven’t turned to father and mother is how they save lives, doing good things on the sabbath.

    #48394

    Simon
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    Actually what COG taught me was it means both.

     

    as far as Sabbath is for resting, that's only the common Israelites, priests are to work. Peter said we are priests of the New Covenant.

    #48395

    Love'n Honey
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    That’s still spiritual. Physically we are priests but spiritually we are. We will enter the spiritual (eternal) rest in heaven.

    #48396

    Simon
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    ?

    #48397

    Love'n Honey
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    Physically we are NOT priests but spiritually we are. By bizzle. =)

    #48398

    Simon
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    yep

    #48399

    Love'n Honey
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    Of course they do. I took pictures with them when I was a kid. =)

    #48400

    Love'n Honey
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    I wonder.. if they believe they are all princes and princesses, who are the subjects in heaven?

    #48401

    Love'n Honey
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    I’m not asking about what the “truth” is. I’m asking what the cog believes.

    #48402

    Love'n Honey
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    They also believe they will be princes and princesses in heaven. My question is who are the subjects?

    #48403

    Emily
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    renita.payno wrote:

    They also believe they will be princes and princesses in heaven. My question is who are the subjects?

    I heard that the 114,000 will be the ones "wearing the crowns" while the great multitude (everyone else that makes it to heaven eventually) will be the subjects.  

    #48404

    Stained
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    Is that the video they have where everybody in Heaven is Korean ? LOL

    #48405

    Simon
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    they aren’t all Korean they are all played by Koreans.

    anyhow pastor park tried to explain it God=> 144000=> great multitude=> angels

    #48406

    Love'n Honey
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    Lol!!! I saw a video where a Korean was dressed as an African. He painted his skin and everything! And one Korean was white. He wore a blonde wig and made his skin pink. Lol

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