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Lol.. So how long have they been celebrating mama Zs birthday on Halloween? It’s the most obvious sign of who she is.. But no one realizes that right? Her actual birthday is October 305th right? Why not celebrate it on that day.. Why wait to do it on Halloween? Lol..
Huh-the day they celebrate her birthday changes every year because it’s the asian calendar day not solar day, but that’s funny
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To wms she’s God. To the rest of the world she looks crazy, but maybe nice.
To us it’s like “uuh someone calling themselves God and they’re obviously not God…uuh, that’s beyond crazy-that’s in the satan “false Christ false Messiah” category. (There’s been dozens of dozens of the false christs). Wms younger members usually have good hearts “wanting to do something for God, serve God.” It’s not a reflection on the just hard working person-it’s a reflection on those deceiving them.
Wms members often really love God to want to serve God. It’s just they are TOLD: ALL OTHER CHURCHES ARE SATAN’S CHURCH IN THE BIBLE, and got tricked by it. To wms “ALL THE OTHER CHURCHES WORSHIP SATAN, THE SUN GOD, that’s why they feel they can’t go to the other churches ever.
Wms “spiritually” younger members are typically good, very hard working people wanting to serve God just thinking “I’ve found the way to express love for God, it’s by works.” Typical wms members are not bad, and in their hearts what they do is for “their creator.” They love God. Wms just misused some of the best hearted people (and turns them arrogant most the time). To wms members “what other churches do looks so pagan, they think ‘that’s so bad, those are the false churches.'” wms makes the case all other churches worship the sun god/satan. But people can hold their worship day whenever they want-people are just off work Sundays. That has nothing to do with the people (society is set up like Rome). People worship Sundays because that’s their only day off work. Tons of people worship Saturdays now days, not the day of what wms calls the sungod. The only thing wrong with any of this is “people should spend time with God, worshipping God every day.” Besides that it has nothing to do with the church-their members just have to work Saturdays or enjoy their Saturday like a normal human being. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy Saturday, at all. (Wms is just not normal). A lot of churches do worships Saturdays and Sundays both for their members who have to work one of those days-that was a great idea.
In their hearts wms members are worshiping their creator (there’s just a deceptive world enveloped around them).
Wms makes the case “all other churches worship the sun god (satan) because they worship on Sunday. If other churches worship Saturdays wms says “well they don’t keep the feasts-they still don’t worship God” if the other churches keep the feasts wms says “they stole the feasts idea from us-such a satan’s church,” even though the feasts have been around since that Armstrong guy at world wide church of God (if I remember right-people first thought i was going to that church world wide church of God when i told people about it-they freaked out over that because they read the Armstrong guy was a very bad guy, and it was documented. Hence an average guy, not Jesus brought the feasts. Wms will go on for hours “but that church didn’t know the meaning of the feasts-they just celebrated them the days the Jews did.” Do you really buy that those members walked into the building on the day of the feast-and didn’t open up the same verses about the feasts as wms-seriously? They say “they didn’t know the Passover gives you eternal life!” To say they didn’t open up John chapter 6 on those days, there’s no evidence they didn’t turn to John chapter 6 that day like plenty of churches do…
Regardless-WMS DOESN’T BELIEVE PASSOVER GIVES YOU ETERNAL LIFE EITHER-wms WILL NOT say “YOU WILL DEFINITELY GO TO HEAVEN JUST FROM KEEPING PASSOVER,” even though sahng wrote they would… They can’t say this because then people will only come Passover… Wms in no way believes in salvation through keeping all the feasts either-if they said you could be saved just through that, the members would only come those yearly days. Wms will flat out tell you “you can keep ALL the feasts and never miss a worship and STILL you may go to hell.” Wms doesn’t believe in salvation through the feasts. Wms doesn’t really preach salvation through anything lol-you can can still go to hell if you fall away, and members won’t go near an ex member in fear they’ll fall away too-uuh so are they scared of hell still and falling away or not? Lol. Maybe we could say “wms preaches salvation through preaching to others,” because Joo wrote stuff about “saving yourself through preaching.” But none of it’s absolute-you could always go to hell if you fell away from wms in their world, and just like they don’t know why the members around them fell away-to them there’s nothing in their power they could do to definitely prevent themselves from falling away-it’s all up to “if Gil holds onto them or let’s them go,” and apparently there’s so many she just “let’s go of” for no apparent reason. Wms members are just told “the ex member sinned really bad, so don’t sin.” Lol. There’s no “way of salvation” in wms-it’s just “if you go to other churches you’ll definitely go to hell.” That’s it.
@warrior i wrote so you can understand-to wms they’re worshipping the creator just like to others they’re worshipping the invisible creator. I know wms is one of the weirdest churches on the planet. It’s the same as there are other churches out there that make God sound very mean, heartless, and condemning-wms is no different except that this person who seems so indifferent and uncaring is on a t.v. screen in front of them. Please understand-israel worshipped other gods all the time in the old testament. Sometimes they worshipped female other gods like Ishtar and Asherah. To wms “other churches say ‘happy Easter,’ easter is pagan-easter is Ishtar the fertility goddess-those churches are pagan-that’s worshipping satan, another god.” Gil is just “another god” (just a human a sinner) just like the Israelites often worshipped other gods, even female other gods. This is nothing new in history, and has been happening for thousands of years. No one needs to freak out-Israel did this same thing a lot. The Bible just singles out wms as the worst church, the worst deceivers, the worst false Christ (but Sahng never ever said he was Christ). It’s Joo and Gil creating these things, hence i distinguished “sahng is the good guy in all this-the things he actually preached like ‘it’s ok to eat meat, you won’t go to hell for eating meat.'” think about that-people had to be taught that, that get could eat meat. It’s been ok to eat meat in Bible for thousands of years, and there’s literally one verse indicating like 3 things on the planet that you can’t eat. But people didn’t know that, had to be taught it, and we’re deceived by it, and tricked by it. (It’s unclean meats seventh day adventists won’t eat-they’re listed in the old testament-here’s some listed below. For instance, people were being told they could not eat these because they’re listed as unclean in the old testament
Abalone
Catfish
Clam
Crab
Crayfish
Cuttlefish
Eel
Jellyfish
Limpet
Lobster
Marlin
Mussel
Octopus
Otter
Oyster
Porpoise
Prawn
Scallop
Seal
Shark
Shrimp
Squid
Sturgeon
Tarbot
Walrus
Whale
How sad would we be if we were told we couldn’t eat catfish, crab, lobster, etc? These have been ok to eat since the new testament, it’s in acts. But a church was telling people they couldn’t eat them… It’s oppression. Do you think their God will really sound like the gracious God who wants people to at least enjoy sea food? No, their God sounds mean.
There’s no verse in the Bible that some church somewhere is not controlling people with and oppressing them with-wms is not the only church out there like this.
The bible calls worshipping “other gods” like worshipping satan and warns against people preaching “another” Jesus-not the gracious kind Jesus who removed the law from us etc. It’s nothing like actual satan worshippers (that’s scary and dangerous). Gil is just “another god,” not the God of the Bible. On earth, people have always worshipped “other gods.” Yes that’s bad-but still, it’s nothing new-and cults eventually lose their members. If we just love them and show them love-they’ll feel God’s love and come back to God. People love God as He’s so loving, sacrificial, kind etc. Churches can just be oppressive and distort God’s image-His personality, etc. Anytime people add commandants saying they’re necessary for salvation, they distort God, and that’s very common in legalistic not faith based churches.
If that’s encouraging-Israel worshipped other gods a lot. I know it’s hard to live with a wms member when married, but he’ll leave wms-all cults shut down…(or at least the will of the person to be controlled and opressed by an organization shuts down) one or the other will happen first-he’ll get tired of it etc
The church is worshipping mothers birthday on halloween? Really? I never that before.
They have celebrated their father gods birthday on Christmas after preaching very firmly against Christmas being Christ birthday. Now they have supposedly celebrated their mother gods birthday on Halloween. How can anyone see this group as anything but some kind of sick joke? They need to close and lock the doors! How Pathetic!
To clarify. Anyone claiming to be God and isn’t God or claiming to be Jesus but isn’t Jesus, that’s automatically just called “that person is Satan.” That’s the definition of Satan in the Bible, trying to be God or take God’s throne or trying to get people to worship them literally. Joo claims to be the #1 prophet on earth, but tells people to worship Gil. So Joo is called “a false prophet.” The reason the Bible points out Joo and Gil as being worst is because no one in history has added more commands to the Bible or deleted more verses from the Bible than Joo and Gil. No other church comes close to that. Yeah in the dark ages they literally deleted the 2nd command from their Bibles. At least they didn’t delete God from the Bible-that’s what Joo and Gil did. Joo and Gil deleted God and Jesus from the Bible and inserted ahnsahnghong and Joo Cheol Kim in their place. Ok… That’s bad… Other churches at least have God and Jesus in their doctrine or at least one of them lol. This is so funny it’s laughable-I’m laughing writing this. It’s not funny to current members or the family or friends of the members being taken advantage of maybe. I think it’s pretty funny though, the concept of literally deleting God and Jesus from the Bible-then going around ranting about some Pope who deleted the 2nd commandant. Ok that was just a bad Pope JUST LIKE Israel sometimes had kings who changed the law and added to it. It doesn’t mean EVERY Pope ever was evil. You can’t delete God AND Jesus both from the Bible and then go knock on doors preaching lol. It’s hilarious.
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