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- October 31, 2016 at 5:34 PM#8079anon7Participant
Omg i literally just realized this. Ok picture this-wms deleted the concept of God the Father, who sent Jesus to earth, who Jesus prayed to, who Jesus called “my God, my Father,” and said “i and the Father are separate, 2” like John 8:17-18 says there’s 2 witnesses, 2 who testify, Jesus and the Father BOTH. But Gil deleted the concept of God the Father in the Bible-making Jesus literally the Father, and in no way the son (as normal churches say, they’re 1 but 2). So what happened? Joo is told “he’s the #1 chosen prophet,” Gil teaches like that, making Joo the “eldest, firstborn son.” Jesus was called “son,” “firstborn,” “brother,” as in the eldest. What happened-Joo took the place of Jesus in wms world (because the concept of there being a God “above Jesus,” disappeared in wms. Corinthians says “God put everything under Jesus’ feet, and everything is under Jesus-EXCEPT God Himself-it says God Himself is ABOVE Jesus.” But wms has no concept “God the Father sent Jesus to earth.” So what happened-Joo inserted himself as the #1 son, the firstborn, the eldest brother, etc… Now i get it-Hebrews chapter 1 clearly does call the “son” God (but doesn’t use Jesus’ name right there. It’s obviously talking about Jesus there, and says “how God brought his first born son into the world, let all the angels bow down to him (in Greek), and says “to which of the Angels did God ever say, you are my son, today i have begotten you. Or to him “i will be a Father to him and he will be my Son.” THIS IS WHY WMS CALLS JOO SOLOMON (because that quoted from when God the Father said to Solomon “i will be a Father to you and you will be to me a son.” That’s why wms says Solomon was the speaker in proverbs 8:22-the craftsman-they’re going to try to say “Joo is GOD THE SON.”
- October 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM #73227
anon7ParticipantWhen i suggested to the wms pastor about using Hebrews 1 to describe Jesus when it says “to the son He says, your throne oh God is forever and ever,” that’s OBVIOUSLY about Jesus, because Jesus is Lord, that’s the same enough thing as being God. Jesus said “the Father doesn’t judge anyone but entrusted all judgement to the Son.” So Jesus was very much “made God, because He was so sinless, so perfect, so holy” it’s referring to “God the Father entrusted Jesus to judge,” so Jesus is like “in the place of God,” but not literally-they still are 2 and separate like Jesus said like a hundred times. So when i said “oh that’s a good verse to use to show Jesus is God,” in Hebrews 1 where it says “to the son he says your throne oh God is forever and ever.” The wms pastor quickly rebuked me, said “use some clear verse, DON’T USE THAT VERSE about Jesus.” Hebrews 1 is as clear as day, and it’s as clear as day that it’s talking about Jesus Christ. I later realized “oh that passage says Jesus says ”i will declare your praise in the congregation of my BROTHERS.” Wms steers clear of all hundred of those kind of verses. It sounds like some wms Pastors were taught “that Hebrews 1 passage ISN’T about Jesus.” Maybe not that Pastor, but he obviously heard it somewhere…
October 31, 2016 at 6:17 PM #73228
anon7ParticipantNo wms member has any idea Hebrews was quoting from what God said about king Solomon, when it said “you will be to me a son, i will be to you a Father.” (But God called tons of people His children, but wms is going to spin it). Wms inserts that proverbs 8 is about king Solomon (no other church does that!!!!!! EVERY OTHER CHURCH ON THE PLANET AND THE JEWS SAYS IT’S JUST PERSONIFYING WISDOM!!). Proverbs 8 says “the Lord brought be forth as the first of his works.” Wms is going to spin it and say “Joo is literally the firstborn son, spiritual Solomon.” They’ve been saying Joo is “the firstborn son, spiritual Solomon for a very long time.” They’re setting it up for when Gil passes away, so they can transition to “Joo is the firstborn son, also God, so keep obeying him.” Joo is the biggest deceiver on the planet-they’ve not just deleted God the Father from the Bible, they’re about to literally stick Joo in Jesus Christ’s place and call him God. I’m telling you before hand because i just realized how they’ll try to do it. We all know Gil will pass away sooner or later-they’ll be left will Joo-they’ll have to say something. Ok the Catholic Church way back when may have called their leader “vicar of the Son of God,” but wms is going to try to say “Joo is literally the vicar of God or God,” they’ll just add another God…or say Joo is the representative. There’s NO evidence of Joo being Solomon or anything. The title “vicarious filee dei,” that the Roman church used to use a long time ago DOES add up 666 like wms and a lot of churches say… Because that idea is so blasphemous. No one could be the “vicar of Jesus,” but that’s what wms is calling Joo and is going to call him directly once Gil is gone “the Vicar oh Jesus, the Vicar of God.” THAT IS WHY JOO IS INDICATED AS THE #1 DECEIVER-for what he’s doing, and basically going to do. Once Gil is gone Joo will call himself the absolute authority on earth-that’s scary. That’s why he’s apollyon, the Son of destruction, Joo is going to proclaim himself to be God like Gil does. That’s why Joo is indicated as satan in the Bible-no deceiver on earth did something that bad, as to say they took Jesus Christ’s place in the Bible-that’s why Joo is the #1 deceiver, #1 evil person…wms has already called Joo “the eldest, first born son,” the next step is just them glorifying it… No Joo is NOT SOLOMON, GOD, THE FIRSTBORN, OR ANYONE ELSE GOOD IN THE BIBLE. Joo is just the most arrogant guy to walk the planet, hence he’s called Satan. THE ONLY PERSON JOO MIGHT BE IN THE BIBLE IS JUDAS ISCARIOT, because the Bible did call Judas Iscariot the Son of destruction, and Jesus said “none was lost but the son of destruction.” I heard Joo call himself “second coming Christ while in wms-Joo said ‘second coming Christ is now testifying.'” no one but me noticed literally, but on one sermon Joo literally said “apostle John said he would show the bride.” Joo had to try to say he’s someone in the Bible…i think he’s going to try say he’s apostle John, because it calls him “the disciple Jesus loves,” seemingly singling him out…
October 31, 2016 at 6:33 PM #73229
anon7ParticipantThey’re going to try to twist Hebrews chapter 1 to say it’s about “spiritual Solomon,” when it’s SO OBVIOUSLY ABOUT JESUS CHRIST, EVERY CHRISTIAN ON THE PLANET KNOWS IT ABOUT JESUS.” Only wms members would fall for that maybe… They’re going to try to deify Joo too-thankfully people on this site have been warning about that for a long time… Well they’ve got to find some other way besides the spiritual Solomon thing now…or Joo is going to look way less smart now lol… Like sahng tried to say “Joo is a fricking arrogant… I’ll stop there.” No Joo you’re not God, and you’re not the #1 chosen anything-no Gil you’re not God, and ahnsahnghong is not Jesus… The only biblical person Sahng may have may have been is Enoch who is attributed with philosophy. Enoch was not Jesus or God! Enoch did try so hard to walk with God-i could maybe buy Sahng as that. But that’s it! At best Joo was Judas Iscariot and at best Sahng was Enoch-that’s it, at best. Neither Sahng or Joo is God, Jesus or a #1 first born or anything like that. Joo is called Satan because he’s the most arrogant person to ever walk the planet (well he and Gil are the top 2 most arrogant people to ever walk the planet). Gil and Joo are the BIGGEST sinners to EVER walk the earth-that is ALL they are. So find some other theory, or look more stupid than you look that some EX wms member chaff threw out your theory before you! I wasn’t stupid for leaving wms-that was the SMARTEST thing i ever did in my life! It would look too stupid for wms to play this theory now…
October 31, 2016 at 6:48 PM #73230
anon7ParticipantRight- Joo Chol Kim adds up to 666 totally coincidentally-uh it’s pronounced the same, and sometimes spelled like that too in Korean. Zahng Gil Jah, Joo Cheol Kim and Ahnsahnghong ALL 3 coincidentally add up to 696…(between the Hebrew and English gematria both). “Coincidence.” So God put the number of Saturn, 696, into the wms leaders names, to make them not look like Saturn, the not just ring leader of the rebellion-forget mythology-STUR the old name for Saturn adds up to 666. All obviously a coincidence… gee it’s not just that Joo is about to call himself God and has been equating himself with the Holy Spirit and second coming Christ for years now, saying “the Holy Spirit is now testifying,” “second coming Christ is now testifying.” yes someone paid attention to his utterly boring sermons-it’s just an ex member who knows he’s satan…
October 31, 2016 at 6:51 PM #73231
anon7ParticipantAnd Chol is the word for Phoenix, like dragon in Hebrew-utterly a coincidence. Uh no. Joo IS the dragon! I’m sure all wms members will be out of wms before 2018-so how long will they drag this out?
November 1, 2016 at 6:50 AM #73232
anon7ParticipantI realized Sahng wasn’t Lucifer… Not in a bad way at least (literally he was like a light bearer and that’s what Lucifer means though)-but sahng was writing like that stuff to indicate Gil was like a Lucifer (with that sin of trying to be God and take God’s throne and be God). Sahng was the guy who tricked satan… This inherently makes him good, because satan is bad. I see Sahng as like the author of philosophy (manipulating and lying) but for what he thought was a greater good. There’s hardly any verses that Sahng wrote in his books that he didn’t twist… He set Joo up, and Joo just jumped at the thought of being in the #1 firstborn position, which is actually Jesus Christ’s position. Sahng is like the guy who took down satan…(that doesn’t make him Jesus or God or Father or anything-sahng is not Jesus, God, Father or anything), and he lied more than…we can keep up with. (Apollo was like Thoth-Thoth literally played both teams, both sides). … This is like some Greek mythology played out in 3D, and i can’t not sound like a conspiracy theorist saying “Sahng was trying to trick Joo and Gil-that was his point.” This really looks like “Enoch tried to destroy Apollyon,” kind of Apollo verses Apollyon, and Apollyon was floored, koed, and everyone will know he’s the bad guy (he was just shouting at everyone they were going to hell, disguised as a prophet). Literally, other gods came in 3D… Who really is Gil is the question. The first thing I’d think of is the Israelites were destroyed for worshipping “the Queen of Heaven,” in the Bible and not YHVH. (The Queen of Heaven was a term for a pagan goddess in the Bible). I mean Gil calls herself “the Queen of heaven,” if she’s not her… It’s obviously her. Apollo tried to take down the Satan and the Queen of Heaven-this played out in 3D like a movie. I’d say Apollo was sent all right… (Apollo is called many things like Thoth, etc… It’s actually Hermes… That’s who Sahng is, undoubtedly. They’ve made tons of myths about it-people don’t know all the myths are based on real things-they didn’t just invent it lol). A lot of Hindu mythology is literally the gods fighting back and forth worse than typical humans do-they look less than, worse than humans, but millions of people worship them… (They don’t think they’re the creator God though). The majority of the entire human population believes in 3 male Gods who are 3 but 1. Over 50℅ of people on earth will express God like this verbatim. This concept is not only the oldest known religion, but no who knows where it came from and who taught it-it has no known founder. … The monotheistic idea of YHVH was introduced of this being with absolute power. Before the idea was “the 3 have the same beginning, but divided into 3.” The concept of 3 is used in Revelation 16 to describe the 3 evil demonic Kings from the east…(Sahng looks bad for lying, and his doctrine was demonic and evil…) Still i would lean heavily towards sahng being Enoch who walked with God every day and because of that he was taken. Sahng wrote a lot of time about “ascending to heaven.” That was a big concept to him. (Wms members don’t know this is in Sahng’s other book either. They know sahng wrote “the 144,000 ascend to heaven alive.” Literally in another of his books, ncpcog has it, Sahng literally wrote “the 144,000 are those who die and pass away on earth.” He did this all the time-contradicting or saying the opposite of what he said before. To say Sahng didn’t lie would be too much of a stretch. Wms says Sahng lied. Wms has to say “he was hiding the truth, protecting it.” He never said “I’m hiding the truth or protecting it.” He didn’t care about truth (writing it)-he was going to take down satan and the Queen of Heaven and make them take the bait and look like fools. In his personal life he tried to walk with YHVH every day it seems. But as far as what he said, his own church even calls him a liar. (They make up some reason. Ok Isaac’s wife would have gotten raped and taken from him if he had said “she’s my wife.” So he said she’s my sister. Verbally there was no sin-she was his spiritual sister. Even Jesus told the Jews “I’m not going up to the feast right now,” but turned around and went in secret. They were trying to kill him. Jesus didn’t lie-he didn’t go up to the feast right that moment. But what didn’t Sahng say that wasn’t a lie is the question? Greek mythology in 3D… The battle of the gods, lower case ‘g’ lol…(they often tricked each other in Greek mythology).
November 1, 2016 at 5:37 PM #73233
anon7Participant*what did Sahng say that wasn’t a lie? English correction.
Sahng being Enoch, who’s like Apollo/Thoth-the guy who plays both sides…(the personification of philosophy). Gil being who the Israelites used to get destroyed for worshipping-“the self proclaimed Queen of Heaven.” It just makes me wonder who Joo is-i know he’s the “son of destruction” “man of lawlessness” and he’s going to proclaim himself to be God in his lifetime. Did anyone else notice Joo said (i think it was the trinity sermon online)-he said “a man can become God.” Quoting from “how can a man be God?” Which the Jews said asking Jesus. I checked the Greek- it only said “How can a man be God?” Anyways the Jews said it-it’s not like Jesus said it. But Joo used the word “become” and said “a man can become God.” Jesus didn’t “become God” in the wms theory-in their theory he was always literally the Father (not just one with the Father, or playing the role of the Father, etc). Jesus was so much older than everyone though… So what is Joo talking about when he said “a man can become God?” Joo is obviously talking about himself-Joo obviously thinks he became God. Did anyone notice on the New years sermon 2014 Gil said “God will go back to his divine this year, and all things will go back to their original order.” That’s a direct quote from Gil that day, on that sermon. She was obviously not talking about Sahng… She had to be referring to Joo because Sahng was already in his divine in their theory. Later after Gil is gone, Joo is going to try to say “look Mother told you i was God.” He’s going to quote her from that 2014 New Years sermon. Gil is the personification of “loudness and folly,” her teachings are usually very foolish… My only question still is “who is Joo” in the myths? Joo is the dragon, satan, son of destruction (Apollyon who is bad, not like a philosophical Apollo). Ok… But…we can easily say Joo is “Saturn,” that “god” nongod… It’s the same word as satan-Saturn is pretty much. (Stur adds up to 666 in Hebrew gematria-that’s the old name for Saturn), and Saturn was the mythological leader of the Rebellion. Ok i get it. But that’s Roman-i haven’t pinpointed the crossover characters. (Like how Apollo was Thoth, hermes, mercury). I mean yeah Saturn was Chronos in Greek, the same leader of the Rebellion character. But who is his character in the other cultures? I’ve suspected the Egyptian god “set,” but this doesn’t flow…just quite. (Set is like the word “satan” too, but… This maybe doesn’t flow in the Bible to think Joo was set, unless we say “he’s the author of idolatry, other gods” this might flow). Set would maybe look like a good guy (unless we go with how the Jews translated a verse, and this translation isn’t in any Bibles-all translators translated it as “and then they came to start calling on the Lord in the time of Seth,” Eve’s son. Jews who speak Hebrew said “no, they started to make idols in the time of seth is what that verse says.” Set being the same as Seth…is it a story of “satan is the originator or idolatry, like someone who would delete one of the 10 commandants literally.” It seems to say “the Antichrist comes to earth, deleting verses and concepts from the Bible.” That’s what Joo does. Sahng just twisted stuff. Sahng never said “i am infallible, my writings are infallible.” Gil is the one saying stuff is infallible. The only thing Sahng ever ever said was “haha, i was a carpenter in a past life.” He also said people used to create in a previous world…like a carpenter. Again, wms hears what they want. Of all things Sahng used “some female is the secret of the 7 thunders (feasts) which were written on the back of the 10 commandants.” What books did Sahng have? because a lot of people know that there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING written on the back of the 10 commandants, and it’s documented… Basically Sahng wrote “it’s all made up-no Gil is not a god or anything,” and warned us by saying “she’s the mystery that was on the back of the 10 commandants, which doesn’t exist.” That was very creative, very smart. Hence he’s the “philosopher of philosophers.” Gil had no way to find out there was nothing at all written on the back of the 10 commandants. Sahng made absolutely sure of this while he was on earth-he brainwashed Gil in a way, to keep her away from even looking at the texts that let us know “there was nothing written on the back of the 10 commandants.” If you notice, wms is forbidden from reading a lot of religious texts, like the other books the Catholic Church uses, etc. (Wms isn’t allowed to read other theories by other pastors or anything). They can only read their texts their church makes, and the Bible (but are steered clear of looking at the Hebrew and Greek).
November 1, 2016 at 7:20 PM #73234
anon7ParticipantSahng warned us over and over and over in his writings and sermons “Gil is not a God, diety, Mother or anything.” Sahng literally wrote “Gil is a nonexistent diety, a false god.” He knew Gil would take the bait with that wedding picture… He knew Gil was a false god, someone who wanted to be God, like that Lucifer sin. This is so clear in what he wrote “there is a female, she is the reality of the 7 thunders (the 7 feasts) written on the back of the 10 commandants,” and Sahng obviously knew “nothing was written on the back of the 10 commandants.” Sahng did an ancient Greek philosophy trick (Luke wrote according to these Greek philosophy patterns too…Luke was a doctor and Apollo was the healer… Luke means “lightbearer.” The only character we could possibly say Sahng possibly was is like Luke who showed up on the scene (wrote stuff with Paul), and had a style of writing so different from any other writer in the Bible. Luke used math… Sahng also does this tons-i learned the math stuff from him. Luke was a good guy and an authorized writer of texts inspired by the Holy Spirit. (But Sahng came and told lie after lie, and whatever he said, he just turned around and said the opposite in other texts-his writings from this lifetime are not Scripture or authorized by God or anything, and are self contradicting. This could be “Luke came and battled Judas Iscariot, and the whole time Judas thought he was on his side.” Luke was the only writer in the Bible smart enough to do this-the only one we knew of in the Bible with some excessively high IQ who somehow knew math no one around him knew, and also somehow knew Greek philosophy methods of writing…to copy them. I don’t believe in reincarnation-but the Jews were sure Elijah would come back-tons of Christians think Jesus was “Isaac the seed.” The Jews thought Jesus was Elijah, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. God sending someone back to earth who had been here before was a common concept in Judaism-their texts don’t just assert it, they say it-it’s all over the old testament. Even Jesus said some of his disciples would be alive at the time of his second coming…lol. i could never completely believe Sahng was Jesus even in wms preaching it…i thought “he seems like someone prophetical though.” I thought “i think Sahng is someone from the New Testament who lived 2000 years ago-i felt so sure, to the point i just stayed in wms that long. I was like “well Sahng took the picture with Gil, and i trust Sahng.” It took months to realize “Sahng was tricking Joo and Gil into proclaiming themselves to be God.” Sahng gave Joo his robe-that’s from a Bible verse, Sahng copied it. So Joo thought “I’m this character who received the Royal robe.” Sahng is what we call a “bad boy who doesn’t fight fair, and doesn’t care either.” That was Luke’s personality… A lot of people God chose had these personalities where you were like “how can they be a disciple or even Apostle?” How could God send someone to earth to lie like hell, twist almost every verse in the Bible, and trick satan himself? God had to send the person “smarter than satan, more crafty than satan,” but who loved God. The only person to ever walk the earth who demonstrated an IQ this high, with a concept of how to use philosophy like that was Apostle Luke. I mean God made the fbi and cia people smarter than the criminals… Satan was “more crafty than any of the other wild animals.” However those are like “unclean animals, false prophets.” God’s team is easily smarter than the evil team… To Sahng he took upon himself the role of Elijah. (John the Baptist was called Elijah, but was NOT the Elijah who Elisha followed-it was just a metaphor). Elijah ascended to heaven and so did Enoch… Sahng actually being physical Elijah is plausible, but there’s 2 types of Elijah’s, Elijah and Enoch. and that IS what Sahng wrote himself as being, “an Elijah”… I think Sahng was just indicating he was “Apollo, the master of philosophy,” because that’s what people thought Enoch was. Sahng seemed to be trying to link himself to Apollo and Enoch who ALSO ascended to Heaven, like Elijah. Kind of like “there’s 2 kinds of Elijah’s,” one who tried to take down Satan, and force him into revealing himself that’s Sahng (he’s like Enoch or simply was Enoch). Then there’s the type of Elijah who prepares the way for YHVH. The Bible did indicate an Elijah character coming from the east-it’s easily the Enoch character-preparing the way of YHVH by setting up satan to be revealed and lose his authority (satan has to lose his power prior to Jesus coming back, PROBABLY). The Elijah character is most ambiguous in the Bible… But simply I’m asserting “we all DO have to make evil lose its power PRIOR to Jesus coming back.” Everyone seems to think Jesus is just going to come back and save the world again, and they’re just waiting for him to come do it again… I am asserting “we humans have to all work together and save the world first, getting rid of evil practices on earth-AFTER that, THEN Jesus will come back.” Simply put I’m asserting “Jesus could come back anytime, even a hundred years from now, or two hundred years from now, or more.” It’s simply a matter of “when will we work together and try to help the earth.” No one knows the day or the hour, probably because it’s not set-it’s simply a matter of “when will everyone step up and try to save the world,” (and i mean physically). If we make earth a less stressful please, everyone will naturally convert to Jesus/God and the Bible… No don’t expect Jesus to come save the world again-he has done that enough… I left wms because i wanted to spend my time trying to help the earth PHYSICALLY. I simply was uninterested in going door to door preaching, was much more concerned about sex trafficked victims being tortured right now. I also knew as a fact that the world wasn’t ending anytime soon…i am interested in fighting about wms, besides that I’m a universalist believing everyone will wind back up in heaven anyways (i don’t know if satan will wind back up in heaven-Jesus said Judas Iscariot was lost, but only one was lost). Joo preaches Judas Iscariot is in hell right now for what he did. Joo condemned himself. Jesus called Judas Iscariot “the son of destruction.” That’s “the man of lawlessness.” Like everyone said, Joo is about the money. That was Judas. Joo knew the thoughts of Judas Iscariot a little too well… That’s because they were Joo’s own thoughts, like he remembered them. If Sahng was Luke, the person with the highest IQ that we know if-he would have realized by time he was 30… God would have to send someone literally smarter than satan for all this-the only person in history who looks that smart is Luke or Enoch. Enoch didn’t miss a beat-so he ascended to Heaven. Elijah was the same way-so he ascended to Heaven. (They’re not the same person, absolutely not-Enoch cannot be prophet Elijah who ascended to Heaven-they’re 2 entirely different people). I would like to meet prophet Elijah-he was hard core, and the Jews would swear he’ll come back. I’d like to find him if he’s here… Luke is not just the only writer of the Bible who looks smarter than satan-he’s the only person in human history who appears that smart. Enoch was smart enough not to miss a beat… (I got tricked and deceived by Joo and Gil for years, but my IQ is easily higher than theirs, but that’s not saying that much-lots of people on earth have an IQ higher than Joo and Gil. Probably at least a quarter, 25℅ of the human’s on earth have a higher IQ than Gil, which is why i found it very weird for her to be God. (She simply does not know or notice a lot of math. There’s probably a small percentage of people on earth with an IQ higher than Joo’s. Still, there’s hundreds of people out there on earth AT LEAST who’s IQ is higher than Joo’s-probably thousands. Gil is never going to take an IQ test telling her score (especially not now that she’s older and her brain is slowed down-it would take her an excessively long time just to take it, which would just look stupid). I can take an IQ test with PLENTY of time left over… My problem was i trusted Sahng… So i keep saying “members, separate between Sahng and Gil-understand he said ‘Gil is not God-Gil is NOT Mother,'” and that he indicated “Gil is a false god.” Gil easily seems so “beautiful,” almost enchanting because even Lucifer was called “the most beautiful angel.” People commented, why is God calling a male “beautiful,” and said “Lucifer is female!” That’s other people’s commentaries… I don’t think at all that Gil will disappear… Joo on the other hand, Jesus at least threatened he would. This is where we get into “can satan repent?” …i think he could… However, even when wms loses all their members, the Bible says there will still be a hand full of people (10 or less people who still follow him). This means “Joo keeps deceiving, even after Gil has passed away, even after his church has failed, though he said ‘it can’t fail.'” so… Will satan repent? … The Bible doesn’t say… God is WAAAAY more concerned about the sheep who were led astray by the ferocious wms wolves… Wms says “God doesn’t care about Satan.” That’s not the case, God cares about everyone, literally, even Satan (even the Angels wms said couldn’t come to earth-God cares about them too). God wants no one to perish, LITERALLY. Also God wants no one to suffer in Hell. I heard a rumor that the fallen Angels who didn’t get to come to earth already repented, they actually repented before the people on earth…i wasn’t that shocked because they can see everything like it’s on t.v. …(this is not a wms rumor-I’m connected to the spiritual world, as are a lot of my friends-my friends on earth let me know the corrupt angels in the spiritual world already repented. I can’t verify it-i don’t know if it’s true if they repented already, but i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true…
November 1, 2016 at 7:25 PM #73235
anon7ParticipantSo i think Sahng could have been Enoch-but was definitely not the physical Elijah who Elisha followed.
November 1, 2016 at 7:49 PM #73236
anon7ParticipantOk let me put it into 2016 terms-there were 2 guys to walk the planet without missing a beat-they had sin on earth and original sin both. But they’re like “neo” in the matrix, a human sinner who still walked their earthly life so well that God just took them to Heaven, let them ascend to Heaven. Everyone thought physical Elijah would come back, they always did. I’m saying Enoch could come back too, and maybe already did. Jesus is the only sinless Messiah to walk the planet. But everyone expected physical Elijah to come back to the point that THAT’S the actual reason the Jews rejected Jesus. The Jews knew John the Baptist was NOT the Elijah whom Elisha followed, the physical Elijah. Funnily the disciples didn’t even know about that prophecy, so it didn’t keep them from believing in Jesus-they didn’t even know about it. Jesus just explained “John the Baptist was a spiritual Elijah,” -the disciples just accepted it. The Jews couldn’t accept it… Their leaders told them PHYSICAL Elijah HAS to come first… I’d say… Before Jesus comes back in our age physical Elijah will come before Jesus (that was one of the first things i said on this site, was that the Jews were probably right-the verses were just about the latter days though, not 2000 years ago). Elijah already came from the east once, so could he come from the west north or south this time? I don’t know. No Sahng was NOT physical Elijah. But was Sahng smarter than satan-it looks like it.
November 1, 2016 at 8:52 PM #73237
Mayor and MikeParticipantNope. There's not enough time on my break to discipher this code.
November 1, 2016 at 10:15 PM #73238
anon7Participant@Mike Even you left wms and still said you still thought Sahng was a prophet, we had a conversation about it before. I also always felt Sahng was a prophet-that’s what got me in wms and made it so hard to leave. I’m saying “yeah Sahng looks like a prophet, but a lying, deceiving bad boy prophet.” Jesus can’t lie. But the 10 commandants only said “you can’t give false testimony against your neighbor, especially if it would get them thrown in jail.” Sahng was a prophet who didn’t fight fair and didn’t care. I mean lying to satan and tricking satan…to force him to reveal himself? … That’s what Sahng did-he manipulated Joo and Gil into showing their identity-as in 2 people who claim to be God, but aren’t/ someone who claims to be the eldest son, #1 prophet, but isn’t. It’s just a THEORY about Sahng being Enoch (it’s only based on the myths about Enoch). To separate and say “yeah Sahng was a prophet. He didn’t fight fair. Sahng was a good guy.” BUT HOWEVER Gil is NOT God, NOT Mother and NOT Jesus’ wife. And Joo is simply a liar, deceiver, and false prophet, that’s it.” That is the best way i could reconcile it (because trying to tell a wms member, or EVEN an ex ems member “sahng was not a prophet, and was a bad guy ” would be like trying to tell a Muslim there’s a hundred Gods, or a Jew “YHVH is not God.” Both will just look at you crazy and dismiss everything else that comes out of your mouth. 99℅ of the time you CANNOT separate a wms member from Sahng-he’s actually the one they like, and is moreso the reason they won’t leave wms and moreso the reason why they went there.
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So yeah, i basically wrote some new age modern day mythological paper, with the actual characters from mythology AND the Bible. How would i prove this? I don’t know, i can barely prove Joo is Satan… I’m submitting it as a theory “the master of philosophy tried to take down the #1 and #2 deceivers, and set them up to fall, and be revealed.” Can i prove this conspiracy theory? … those who know not just Greek mythology, but also the apocrypha stuff… They’d look at this and say “i knew it, i knew the ‘gods’ came to earth.’ it’s just Joo and Gil are “false gods,” who came to earth, and didn’t know who they were… Do you remember Paul writing “there are many gods and many lords (many false gods) but as for us there’s one God, the Father, and Jesus Christ whom he sent?” In Corinthians. I mean God literally wrote in revelation 9 “Apollyon is Satan, the beast, and his # is 666.” Apollo was a “god” people had been writing about for thousands of years. It’s not Apollo who is the bad guy. The Bible calls it “the son of Apollo, the son of destruction.” Apollyon means destroyer, destruction. Sahng literally came to earth and destroyed Christianity using like every verse in the Bible against itself… But why? No one is going to take his writings seriously anyways, they shouldn’t. Joo and Gil just fell for it. (Over 99℅ of the population didn’t fall for it). I fell for it for a few years… Then i started really reading mythology… And wondered “Why did God call satan the beast Apollo?” When i read how Apollo/thoth played both sides, i was like “i was right, Sahng was on God’s side… Then why take the picture with Gil and give the robe to Joo?… There’s so many stories about the “gods” tricking or deceiving each other. YHVH can’t lie. Jesus can’t sin, so he can’t lie either. But Sahng could lie-that’s why he was the perfect person to deceive Joo… Jesus can’t do something like that lol… So there are “other characters,” lol. Sahng set up Joo to look so stupid that go one could take him seriously. Joo looks like an atheist who thinks in a way he’s Jesus. It’s all very funny… jokes on him. Yes i have literally written a modern day mythological battle of the “gods” story-a story got them in wms… It’s logical to say Sahng was the good guy or even a prophet. Then why the wedding picture and the robe thing? … Sahng knew who Gil and Joo were-false gods (he had enough memory to know or figured it out). Now we’re just watching the movie play out, waiting for Joo to proclaim himself to be “God.” I felt Sahng and i were on the same team a long time before any wms member ever preached to me. I found Sahng on goggle when i was still a teen-ager. I saw his picture, and was immediately like “i feel like i know him.” I was about to google the address and phone number of wmscog church near by and i felt God say “DON’T! just wait… They’ll come to you.” A couple years later wms members came up to me and preached to me. Once i saw the picture of Sahng i immediately remembered from when i saw him on Google as a teen-ager. I was 18 or so when i started checking Google wondering if Jesus had come back yet… To me Sahng didn’t talk like Jesus or anything-he didn’t remind me of Jesus much. I just suppressed it… Even in wms, after i knew Joo and Gil were wrong in their doctrine, i kept preaching things like their Trinity sermon to blend in (though i didn’t believe it anymore one bit). After i left wms i started to separate between the 3 of them.
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Also-I’m waiting for physical Elijah (not Enoch) to come back, not Jesus. I do think Jesus will come after physical Elijah comes back, not before. (Maybe I’m wrong). Elijah is off my radar if he’s here already. Elijah may literally come on a chariot of fire in the sky, seriously, maybe. I don’t know-maybe he’ll just be born. I don’t know. All i know is Gil and Joo are “false gods,” that’s all i really know lol
November 1, 2016 at 10:32 PM #73239
Mayor and MikeParticipantThese posts are like the DMZ. There's no getting through.
November 1, 2016 at 10:39 PM #73240
anon7ParticipantTo people who know mythology or especially know not just Greek mythology-this would make a hundred times more sense than thinking “sahng is Jesus or Gil is God or Jesus’ wife.” Anyways wms makes no sense… “The fool says there’s no God,” hence Gil is the personification of foolishness and folly in proverbs. Most atheists and agnostics are just too logical to go for stuff when they identify even one lie or contradiction in it. They demand an explanation first, before buying the “product” being sold. Athiests and agnostics never go around preaching there’s no God lol. But wms has literally gone to almost every door, illegally or not, and said “did you know there’s no God? Come baptize!” (They don’t really try to preach to Muslims-that’d be pretty pointless). They literally skip over preaching to Jews. They’re targeting young people who haven’t had a chance to develop a world view. JUST DO NOT BAPTIZE INTO JOO CHEOL KIM’S NAME-that would be the WORST mistake of anyone’s life. I’m scared when Gil is gone they’ll say “well Joo is the firsborn son,” they already do that now, but I’m TERRIFIED they’ll say “baptized into the name Joo Cheol Kim and Ahnsahnghong,” or even say “baptize into the name of Ahnsahnghong, Joo Cheol Kim and Zahng Gil Jah,” like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-calling Joo the name of the Son, and Gil the name of the Holy Spirit. I am terrified wms will try this. Nothing good or bad happened from baptizing into Ahnsahnghong’s name-we should just forgive ourselves as God always forgives us. God knew we were deceived. But I’m trying to get all the wms members out BEFORE wms could try that baptism stunt… So i write a lot… Trying to keep new members from going into wms, and trying to pull old wms members out… What would get them out? I don’t know yet…
November 1, 2016 at 10:44 PM #73241
anon7ParticipantMayor, I’m sorry I’m worried, so i write a lot. It’s a modern day mythological story in 3d, just read it for ENTERTAINMENT when/if you have time. Omg i am not like WMS saying anyone HAS to read my posts lol. Ok i can just post long stuff on the blog and short stuff here but… Very few people look at my blog… A lot of people come here…*if it’s that important i put it in ALL caps or in the FIRST or last sentence, etc.*
November 1, 2016 at 10:45 PM #73242
anon7ParticipantMayor once i section it, I’m writing to everyone at that point. I gotta put @everyone
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I added @everything to the above post, i wasn’t sending you to the dmv mayor, just like the Walmart line around Christmas :p
November 1, 2016 at 10:51 PM #73243
Mayor and MikeParticipantHmm… it's more like eating rice with chop sticks. Can I get a fork please?!
November 1, 2016 at 10:52 PM #73244
Mayor and MikeParticipantYeah, like at happy christmas
November 1, 2016 at 10:54 PM #73245
Mayor and MikeParticipantExcuse miss, where are the forks aisle ? I need one.
November 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM #73246
anon7ParticipantLol i put forks-you don’t have to read the @everyone part. I’ve just been writing or else observing modern day mythology. “Battle of the gods.” Jesus said “you are all gods,” quoting from psalms. Even kanye west calls himself god lol, this seems to be popular even in pop culture lol. Kanye didn’t tell anyone they had to worship him at 5am though lol.
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