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Simon wrote:
We have no reason to believe jesus had no ailments
It depends on what your beliefs on Original Sin are. I think many Christians would argue that since Christ was without any stain of sin or concupiscence he would be free from the punishments or results of the fall. We have a broken sinful nature, Christ did not. So hypothetically He would not be subject to disease, or natural death. I could see it both ways.
The notion of "god" wearing a hearing aid is pretty laughable. I also understand she has poor English abilities, whereas God should be all knowing.
Simon wrote:
Harry wrote:
I think we can safely assume that Jesus had no ailments, isn't that the way Bible warfare works?
We cannot safely assume anything of the sort…
Philippians 2:5In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very naturea God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very natureb of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Hebrews 2:14Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,15and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.16For assuredly He does not give help to angels, but He gives help to the descendant of Abraham.17Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.18For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.
Thanks for clearing that up shim, Btw, THIS IS ABOUT MIND CONTROL NOT THE BIBLE
Harry wrote:
Sarah2013 wrote:
Simon wrote:
you are the one arguing irrelevancies sarah
Cool.
Simon wrote:
yup
Cool…..yup…..am not …..are to….you two crack me up, BTW the old lady in Korea wears a hearing aid
Dude likes to debate every single comment made. Not all comments are grounds for debate. And yes, he'll comment on this too. Why does she wear hearing aid? Fleshly nature?
Harry wrote…..
Thanks for clearing that up shim, Btw, “THIS IS ABOUT MIND CONTROL NOT THE BIBLE”
Thank you, Harry!!!!
This is so true, and the basis if this group- yes they use the bible, but it is ALL about mind control!
I didn’t bring up the argument you guys did I merely refuted it
Also if you don’t like their mind control don’t feed it proving them correct using the same invalid arguments they say we will so many god ones to use instead
Simon wrote:
We have no reason to believe jesus had no ailments
I wonder of the unblemished lamb of the passover is argument enough.
FTOS, I'm still waiting for an answer.
unblemished means without sin in jesus case
Otherwise his multiple lacerations from his whippings would be blemishes
Simon wrote:
I didn't bring up the argument you guys did I merely refuted it
Also if you don't like their mind control don't feed it proving them correct using the same invalid arguments they say we will so many god ones to use instead
Ok Shim, that's a good point, seriously, I was just implementing their tactic by using, invalid arguements to prove whatever they want to prove. I met a man last week who made a pretty compelling arguement for being Jesus Christ himself simply by showing me passages from the bible. His point was to show me how anyone can manipulate the bible. I believe we should have a standard "company line" on the points in the bible that they mess with as that is very important. on the otherhand too much bible debate steers us away from the true problem!
I will continue to say this until i am blue in the face, our enemy here is a MIND CONTROL CULT THAT USES THE BIBLE AS IT'S WEAPON or TOOL if you wish. That said, in order to win a battle with them you will need a couple of bible victories at some point which of course is ridiculously easy because everything they shovel there is just that, crap.
Once you break through the mind control and the ex-member is able to see clearly, it seems relatively easy for them to realize that God is not some (removed for rules) in Korea. So let's help as many people as we can regain CONTROL OF THEIR MINDS.
Amen to that Harry. About her hearing aid….do you think it could be an earpiece with someone telling her what to say to the members?
We shouldn't be hypocrites however. They are already ready for the Ahn's glasses argument anyways
Maybe you guys should be debating about the fact Jesus took a dump, you know that's a not a very godly thing. Well it's not in the bible so Jesus never took dumps, also he is God. I don't think Christ would squat and take a dump. Just doesn't seem Godly to me. Seriously these are just the most rediculous arguments, You can't beat us on the truth and doctrine so your resorting to useless squable. Harry you can shovel this crap back in your mouth.
emil wrote:
Simon wrote:
We have no reason to believe jesus had no ailments
I wonder of the unblemished lamb of the passover is argument enough.
FTOS, I'm still waiting for an answer.
If you want answers to useless questions, then I would like to know, have you ever had sex? With women of course. How long do you last until your >>> goes flacid? You don't have any problems getting a hard on do you? Once you guys want to talk about serious topics we can get back to talking.
fromtheotherside wrote:
Maybe you guys should be debating about the fact Jesus took a dump, you know that's a not a very godly thing. Well it's not in the bible so Jesus never took dumps, also he is God. I don't think Christ would squat and take a dump. Just doesn't seem Godly to me. Seriously these are just the most rediculous arguments, You can't beat us on the truth and doctrine so your resorting to useless squable. Harry you can shovel this crap back in your mouth.
@FTOS I feel your pain, i really do, this is no BS, i know why your so upset, it's ok, things are becoming clear to you aren't they.
I want you to know, no matter what has been said I won't leave your side neither will Emil or anyone else on this site. We are all there for you no one will leave you. Say the word and we will be there!! Don't be afraid to take back your life. we are all there for you.
FTOS, you said, "Once you guys want to talk about serious topics we can get back to talking."
You seem to be ignoring the serious topics that are being talked about. And don't forget about this one: https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forum/topic.php?id=4646
genny wrote:
FTOS, you said, "Once you guys want to talk about serious topics we can get back to talking."
You seem to be ignoring the serious topics that are being talked about. And don't forget about this one: https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forum/topic.php?id=4646
Yes there definitely are some serious discussions not everything is focussing on whether mother needs hearing aids father needs glasses or whatever other physical thing we can pin on them
@Simon…they are not my mother & father. There is only one God-God the Father, who is in heaven. ASH & Zhang are not God. With that said it really doesn’t matter if they wear hearing aids/glasses.They are human just like us. They age and Zhang will eventually die, not ascending into heaven, nor taking the 144,000 with her.
your response is pretty meaningless
FTOS – please read my post once again. Have I condemned wearing a hearing aid? I merely asked a question and you flew off the handle. Once again you got into your old habit of getting personal. Peace brother, you ought to control your temper. Ask mother to help you.
What ridiculous arguments rally are, I can point out in other threads. Like what you said about Isaac. Let us pick up that thread again.
Now answer the question. Does she wear a hearing aid or not?
I'm not getting personal with you, it's an honest question, I would really like to know, how long before you're flacid. Can you answer my question? If you feel you must know then I too would like to know.
I would like to know because your mother is a public figure. You worship her as god.
I do not go into your personal life because you don't claim to be god AFAIK. Why would you be interested in my life? Do I claim to be god?
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