- Topic
Another failed prediction and another placing the blame on the church members. You haven't made enough oil? What are you all bridesmaids now? Why are you choosing to follow along with this? Haven't you been lied to enough yet? Your turn, tell us why this is anything but another bigger lie to cover up another failure?
Oh, and the Zion my relative goes to has a very high percentage of Koreans.
I doubt every Korean knows
most of sion do… really… albeit some only have a couple or so, afteral… who would do the hangul translation for those weekely sermon material and such, unless of course those people were that proficient in hangul, since mostly all wms material were emailed to them in hangul.
I don't know if every Korean knows. I think some were just brought up in this religion from children and don't know anything else but what they were taught. In the Zion where my relative goes, there are pictures of little Korean children learning about Ahnsahnghong. So sad.
KC wrote:
most of sion do… really… albeit some only have a couple or so, afteral… who would do the hangul translation for those weekely sermon material and such, unless of course those people were that proficient in hangul, since mostly all wms material were emailed to them in hangul.
What weekly sermon material are you talking about?
KC wrote:
Lets say… yea theres no koreans and there no need for the heavy emphasis of tithing, then…. what make you guys think theres something wrong with wms? or for some, why did you get out? Just because their believe of mama god?, Personally i think if its ONLY about the believe… as i said before… none you would join up from the start.
I left because they kept the feast of trumpets eight months after Passover…
KC wrote:
and come on… at the end of every sermon those guys in complete non korean sion then would just chanted … hanule geysin aboji anhsanhhong nim, abojikeyso gangnimhasil naren imbakhayetsaona, urideren amu junbido obsaoni, abojiyo urirel bulsanghi yogisigo, abojiei songyonguro malmiama and etc (too lazy to type) without REALLY knowning what they are blabbing about?
You mean besides the fact there is a translation on the sheet that has the transliteration?
Do you think the weekly sabbath sermon were written by every own local sion deacon? believe me… its not :), well.. whatever reason you left the wms is for…. most left the wms by personal non religious reasons such as being casted out since they were deemed not profitable (dont pay enough or dont recruit enough) by wms.
But yes, in some region they do write a local language translation below the romanized hangul text.
they aren’t emailed either they decide randomly from the sermon book or “books of truth”
different ziond do different sermons in the same week
Abhigail Delema wrote:
The koreans are realy not sent to help brother and sisters but to keep a good watch on the operation my group leader always use to tell me when the koreans sit in sion to have lunch or dinner you will see them gosipping about their group members, for eg-who borrowed money from whom,what are peoples salaries ,who is not putting proper amount of thites, which husband drinks at home etc. regarding the money part they never let indians get near it they can collect but not count it is done in close rooms,i know a decan years back went to lanavala to start a zion on his own beliving that the end was near .He went on his own and was fired for doing such a thing without telling the head or the assemble,then he sent a email to the asseble and he was given special permesion to do so, all koreans were very angry with him because he was a very sturbon person. but slowly the koreans realaised that the members were many about 100 in years time and there was no accont of the tites when they questioned him he said he use to pay the rent electric bill etc,So they called him to korea cunningly praised him and sent two korean sisters to keep watch over him,The sister found it hard to keep watch with this charecter they reported back and then he was told to marry a korean at the same time transfered to pune and congratulated for the good job ,even thou he was divoced married to an indian he was allowed to marry that koren lady, but unfortunately this korean lady also left him and went back to korea. during this process after the korean lady going many other korens have come and gone they have their people to count their money they collect today he heads the church in amhed nagar but has korens with him to keep watch over him no doubt they gave him a title of chandosanim and said he will be a pastor soon.they praise him for the oil he has so please tell me what oil are they talking about.
Oil means faith in Zion and Lamp means God's commandments (Sabbath, Passover, Tithe etc according to the wmscog) hence there's a song that they call "mother's song" (Zahng's song), it's in their newsong book and it's called "Oh you Lamp, oh you Oil". So when they praise him for the "oil" he has they are actually praising him for keeping his "faith" to such an extent.
Here they said the oil is faith and the lamp is christ.
and yes alledgedly Zahng wrote that song about ASH.
Joshua wrote:
I have phyically met one of the people who decided that the Saturday Sabbath in the USA should be all day. Prior to this vote there were two or three services and members could / would usually attend one of them. This group started out with one service in the morning, then two morning services. Eventually they added an evening service for those member who had a difficult time coming to the morning services. After a few years of this they decided that the Sabbath was all day so the members should be in Zion of doing stuff for Zion all day. It seems that this was addopted by every Zion in the USA. If they're all the same in this why can't they seem to be of one mind as far as the teachings of god?
why would someone tell you this? at least someone higher up responsible for the change?
Simon I've read your previous comments and just wonder, are you a former or current member of the WMSCOG?
I left about 7 months ago a lot of thanks to Genny for that
Frustrated angry confused wrote:
Simon I've read your previous comments and just wonder, are you a former or current member of the WMSCOG?
LOL! I understand why you got this idea that Simon is a current member. Most of his comments "seems" to defend the wmscog.
how is that?
Frustrated angry confused wrote:
Simon I've read your previous comments and just wonder, are you a former or current member of the WMSCOG?
LOL! I understand why you got this idea that Simon is a current member. Most of his comments "seems" to defend the wmscog.
Well…Hard to explain. Your comments just seems that way. I thought it was just me but I guess other people noticed. lol. No offense though.
When I was a member I thought some former members were faking ever being members because experiences were so different lol
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.