[Jesus of Nazareth]

So nice to be back.

[Sarah2013]

[Sarah2013]

Elaine, thank you. This is the point i have been trying to make. However, some prefer to give the debate a chance. I guess to help those who will leave see why they ought to get out. It won’t be funny in the end. We have to refrain from fencing. Either we are in or we are out. Seriously, God is not playing. Thanks, dear.

[Sarah2013]

You know the feeling you get when people smile in your face, yet it feels all wrong, Elaine? That was the feeling I perceived often. The eyes never lie. Just like by looking into someone’s eyes you can tell their age group.

[Jesus of Nazareth]

Liberty wrote:

MountainMom wrote:

Yes, I figured they were really out in force trying to fill the seats.  Especially in the Reseda branch.  Of course, I believe it was FTOS who said that they filled up the spots left by Ron Ramos and Diane Sims right away, no problem.  It struck me as a pretty callous comment to make, like their long term commitment to the wmscog meant nothing.  Like, who cares about them now, since they aren't in here anymore?  Really, like they didn't matter after all the time, money, recruiting, and devotion they put in? 

I think any current member should take a good long look at how Ron and Diane have been treated since their departure.  They were revered, now that they can no longer be used, they are villified and also treated as though their efforts, time, money, and devotion never happened.  Treated exactly like tools that were used, and then discarded when no longer useful.  Hmmm………..   Could this also be the fate of the members they have now?  I believe that no one stays in a high demand group like this forever.  Best to look at this closely now rather than stay too long.

Have many people left the Resda church? When I left, there were so many members there that there were hardly enough seats for everyone. But I know of at least three people who left when Deaconness Diane and Missionary Ron did.

A few times, I wanted to go back, just to see how the church currently looked. Fortunately, I talked myself out of that. I don't feel comfortable going there, if I'm doing so for the wrong reasons. But gosh, am I curious!

Anybody who leaves the church is treated poorly. I understand the mentality because  I was completely emersed in it at once. I would even pray for those who had "fallen" away. But we were taught not to contact them. There was one teaching that went something like, "do not follow those who have run out of oil (faith)." I think that's why.

 

But yes, its very telling. It's always sad when you realized the love in that church was not true love. It's all conditional, and they don't really care about your phsyical state of being. Also, as members are not supposed to hang out with each other outside of church. So we were basically told not to call or talk to anyone unless it had something to do with Zion. So basically, if someone doesn't attend anymore, and they have no interest of attending again, then the members feel that they don't have any reason to contact them. I'm not saying I agree with it, because I don't. But I understand it, becuase I used to think like that when I was a member.

 

But yeah, it does make me mad when I hear people say bad things about Missionary Ron. He was sincere, genuine, compassionate and very loyal. So was Deaconness Diane. But the wmscog has to tarnish their reputation in order to keep their current members.

 Thank God you kept enough of yourself to wake up.  Your friends are coming too, you'll see.

[Love'n Honey]

Sarah2013 wrote:

You know the feeling you get when people smile in your face, yet it feels all wrong, Elaine? That was the feeling I perceived often. The eyes never lie. Just like by looking into someone's eyes you can tell their age group.

This is why I don't smile at strangers.

[jellybean]

fromtheotherside wrote:

yes questioninginla please note it, its just like you and everyone else here, to again, put blame without proof on the wms.  Do you have the name of the hacker?no do you have an Ip addresse? no do you have any evidence? again NO wow you see a pattern here.  

 I will not tell you that is the WMS however what evidence do you have that is not WMS?? Does it make any sense to you that the admin will hack his own site?? We do not need to do that kind of things in this site because the purpose of this site is to share valuable information from the people that got over WMS for the people that still in there.

[Jesus of Nazareth]

Elaine wrote:

Sarah I am so glad you are out from this madness. I used to get a headache when I was told to watch these videos and would somehow find an excuse to get out of there. They were so noisy and it was like some kind of protest going on in a street.

I think they both (angs) are not even worthy to be associated with the word "GOD" and will have a big price to pay for ruining the souls of  many innocent ones

  

BRAVO !