And God said, lets make them in our image!

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  • #7660

    That’s what God said, let’s make man and woman in our image, when God said this he never meant anything physical or genderwise, he meant his greatness, his glory, his wisdom and free will, which it was entailed to us from the the beginning.

    Even thought he is our heavenly Father, he never needed a female God in order to create us. This is where WMSCOG got it all wrong, they believe that everything on earth is a mirror image of what heaven should be like. God is not a human he is an omnipotent being he never needed a wife, or an image of a female God.

    Even though, the book of genesis starts with he created them man and women, he created them… but when we go into depth in the account of Adam and Eve, it show us how exactly everything came to plan and even after God created the earth, the land and the sea, God realized that man needed companionship to be on this earth, and even after he created all the animals and names were given, he still didn’t found a companion suitable for Adam. That’s when we all know that he make Adam fall asleep and created Eve from one rib..

    So Im nobody to question God to know why he did things the way he did, but isn’t it strange that God didn’t take the dust from the earth and created man and women at the same time? If there was such an image of a female God, then why does God goes thru the trouble to tell us thru the bible that in the account of Adam and Eve, that she only came until later? Only until he realized what kind of companion he really needed.

    I always wonder this and i ask them during many studies but they never had a concise answer.

  • #67648

    Smurf
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    Yep, Adam and Eve were not made simultanioulsy. Which would be the case if there were 2 gods. God made Adam. Only after that came Eve. Adam was a prerequisite for Eve. Eve could not exist without Adam, but adam DID exist without Eve.

    Adam came from God. -> Eve came from Adam. Get it in your thick skulls.

    #67649

    Smurf
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    Since we're on the topic of images:

    If the image of God is man, could the image of the Beast be something similar?

    Satans attempt to emulate God's creation process maybe?

    And has something like this ever happened during Nero's reign?

    #67650

    Simon
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    They have an answer as to why… but the fact is the bible says both man and woman are in the image and likeness of God so maybe instead of trying to argue that that isn't true you and straw mans about what God does or doesn't need we should argue why it doesn't mean God's gender is connected to the image

    #67651

    dear_all
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    God created man in God’s own image. Even tho, Adam

    Was created 1st, still both Adam&Eve were created in img of God.

    Adam was created in img of God the Father.

    Do you think that eve was also created in img of Father ?

    Eve was created in img of Mother.

    & This is not new teaching. It was long before age of son. The prophecy has been fulfilled at its own time.

    Jesus clearly told in the parable of wedding banquet that our salvation has something to do with bride. Uses we take in banquet, we can’t enter heavenly kingdom.

    #67652

    dear_all
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    Correction : unless instead of uses

    #67653

    remco9519
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    Old Bible editions say "Let us make man from our image" not "make them".  This is a problem with Bible thumpers.  The new version of NIV most especially omitted a lot of verses from the new testament then editing the remaining verses which change the meaning of the original verses. Accordingly, the NIV is the one in use by new age movement like WMSCOG.  And there is an article which states that the new NIV is intended for a planned one world religion.

    #67654

    Smurf
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    The WMS is in no way a new age movement. Check the definition before writing nonsence like this.

    Could you be so kind and give a source for the "NIV one world religion" theory?

    The niv is already being used by a religion and that religion is christianity. Are you suggesting that everyone is going to drop their beliefs to convert to christianity?

    A one world religion is supposed to unite all religions, take the best of them all, so to speak.

    #67655

    Azula
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    neutral wrote:

    God created man in God's own image. Even tho, Adam

    Was created 1st, still both Adam&Eve were created in img of God.

    Adam was created in img of God the Father.

    Do you think that eve was also created in img of Father ?

    Eve was created in img of Mother.

    & This is not new teaching. It was long before age of son. The prophecy has been fulfilled at its own time.

    Jesus clearly told in the parable of wedding banquet that our salvation has something to do with bride. Uses we take in banquet, we can't enter heavenly kingdom.

    I somehow doubt the neutrality of this here comment and commentator. When something that could clearly be interepreted in various meanings is now given a definitve interpretation. This black and white interpretation is one of my major problems with the cult.

    #67656

    remco9519
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    @neutral
    .. and so God the Father and mother god in order to have begotten children have had sexual intercourse?  you misunderstood everything.  Reference to Genesis when God created the universe, does any mother god existed?  Problems with new Bible translations, the Bible thumpers fucking up the Scriptures and mankind gets lost and stray.  Okay, be it that way,  does that enough to make dead man ahnsanghong and his concubine gods?  At the sites of WMSCOG, they even say that god ahnsanghong created the heavens and the earth.  Are you buying that idea when billion years old now is the universe and when were these WMSCOG false gods were born?  I'm sorry, but I can tell you that WMSCOG if it is not a cult, all in it are bullshits and foolishness.  It's a criminal enterprise man,  it doesn't have any interest with truly saving souls other than their money, energy, time etc., and how can be people be saved in worshipping a dead man and a fake mother god.  What is the punishment of worshipping wrong gods?  HELLFIRE FOREVER.  You cannot find in the Bible any of the LAWS of GOD handed down to mankind thru the prophets that worshipping a dead man counting him as god is permissible and even so any presence of mother god.

    #67657

    Simon
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    NIV is not for a NWO one world religion or any of that nonsense… NIV isn't to blame for the messed up doctrines… NIV is barely relevent to the issue at hand.

     

    In fact one can as easily prove wmscog doctrine through KJV as NIV (not that you can prove lies but you can brain wash the same nonsense doctrine just as easily in KJV in fact some verses it is easier with KJV than NIV)

    #67658

    Simon
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    Let us focus on WMSCOG and ITS faults ITS lies ITS schemes not look for another thing to place blame upon.

    #67659

    reydelavoz
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    1 corinthians 11:7-9

    7 A man ought not to cover his head since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

     

     

    #67660

    Simon
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    And?

    #67661

    What is truth
    Participant

    remco9519 wrote:


    @neutral
    .. and so God the Father and mother god in order to have begotten children have had sexual intercourse?  you misunderstood everything.  Reference to Genesis when God created the universe, does any mother god existed?  Problems with new Bible translations, the Bible thumpers fucking up the Scriptures and mankind gets lost and stray.  Okay, be it that way,  does that enough to make dead man ahnsanghong and his concubine gods?  At the sites of WMSCOG, they even say that god ahnsanghong created the heavens and the earth.  Are you buying that idea when billion years old now is the universe and when were these WMSCOG false gods were born?  I'm sorry, but I can tell you that WMSCOG if it is not a cult, all in it are bullshits and foolishness.  It's a criminal enterprise man,  it doesn't have any interest with truly saving souls other than their money, energy, time etc., and how can be people be saved in worshipping a dead man and a fake mother god.  What is the punishment of worshipping wrong gods?  HELLFIRE FOREVER.  You cannot find in the Bible any of the LAWS of GOD handed down to mankind thru the prophets that worshipping a dead man counting him as god is permissible and even so any presence of mother god.

    Neutral is posing as being "neutra"l. But this could not be further from the truth. In hopes that he or she might be the tipping force for those newcommers that are on the fence, he/she has been posing as a researcher that just so happens to be always leaning on the side of the church of god, even going as far as proclaiming that the idea of mother god is not new?? Wake up people! The conversations of "neutral" are not for us at all! They are an intentional damage control measure. The cog knows that new members, not being yet under the full control of the church, are prone to research and find this site. Neutral's comments will serve as a cushion to the blow. It naturally raises the "what if" question in young minds. It is just another "crafty" method of deception to trap the young and impressionable. Purge this evil from our threads. 

    #67662

    Smurf
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    reydelavoz wrote:

     

     

    1 corinthians 11:7-9

    7 A man ought not to cover his head since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

     

    Brilliant! I had almost forgotten about that.

    It says MAN is the image of God! It doesn't say the same about the woman.

    The WMSCOG uses this verse often, yet they fail to see that the woman did not come from a female god, but from MAN!

     

     

    #67663

    Simon
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    that is completely false the Bible does say women are in the image of God

    #67664

    reydelavoz
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    we are talking about where women came from they did come from man not from a woman 

    god.. it explicitly says it thier in 1 corinthians 11: look up the deffinition of glory it will also give it more sense

    #67665

    Simon
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    smurf said the Bible says women aren't in the image of God therefore no you are a group aren't talking about where women come from maybe YOU as an individual are

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